Who was better - Peter Jackson or James Corbett?

he went on to fight Corbett didn’t he? Never mind replying. We know the awnser to that. A fighter can say anything. It what he does a year later that speaks volumes. He passed, plain and simple.

 

Do you think that a retired champion, is obliged to come out of retirement, for any Tom Dick or Harry that challenges them?

The reason that he came out of retirement for Corbett, was because his backers came up with a lot more money than Slavin's.

 

Then blame Jeffries for not fighting Tommy Burns, Sam McVea, Sam Langford, Joe Jeannette and Gunboat Smith. After all, he came back fighting in 1910.

You should also blame Joe Louis for not fighting Nino Valdes, Archie Moore and Bob Baker. He straight ducked them!

 

Also, people should be in no doubt, that Sullivan had to fight Jake Kilrain, before he fought Peter Jackson

A significant portion of the press regarded Kilrain as being the World Champion, and nobody regarded Jackson as being the world champion.

Jackson was nothing more than a good contender 1n 1888/1889.

He would not even have been seen as the outstanding contender, until either Sullivan had beaten Kilrain, or he had beaten Kilrain.

We have to stop this silly practice, of measuring Sullivan's career against the contenders of another era.

 

Or sport since the famous Kilrain fight was bare knuckle not M of Q .. William Muldoon made sure John L. never met Jackson in the ring under M of Q as he felt strongly Sullivan would lose.

 

Let's assume that he was right.

When could this fight realistically have happened, and how would it have impacted Sullivan's resume, if he had lost?

 

I tried it more years ago, like over a decade (possible didn't verify it first, when I got an e-mail), had also in 2018 trouble to registrate for PayPal (have it now since over 10 months).

But I see no reason to give them any data of me; it is just made to make it more difficult and collect informations (for companies, like on social networks), which are not their buisness.
Around one decade ago it worked very well without such required stuff, but maybe since around 2015 it is very often overloaded (the same was made on the German chess association homepage, where you have to registrate to get further informations as matches/ results, but no private one; so this decreased in the last 6 years as well, step by step, including that the surface/ layer are less visible for links of independant pages).

 

I don't have to prove it, as there is no need for it. Just load up the video and show that there were no knockdowns (which you can't, because it were)...
I have you proven many times wrong, like of the Nicholson vs. Ruiz fight (which didn't exist according to you). And you even fixed on the obvious wrong translation in the Klitschko vs. Byrd fight, despite you speak no word German and everyone could hear that only Sdunek spoke when it was sychronized.
So when you published the video of this, you took it as proof that he quit, although it was the opposite (and very ludcrious/ funny to cry).

 

Okay interesting, apparently another German who likes chess and classic boxing.

Stay safe and best regards

 

Thanks! Not only that, but also Muay Thai (though rally watched it the last couple of years) and K1 (when the original existed till 2011, in Japan).
I used to like also football (but more in the past, over a decade ago), athletics and played over a decade ago Chester (sometimes draughts).
Watched also till 2000 Strongest Man (begin when Magnus Magnusen won it three times in row).

I actually have planed to switch to Xia Qi (it seems to be more exciting than Shoggi), but there are likely not so many competitions offline in Europe than in classical chess.

 

You would be funny if you weren't so pathetic,you have mental problems Pal.Get some help.

 

Yes, he went on to fight Corbett onSep 7th 1892 his last fight before that was against Kilrain onJuly 8th1889!

 

Well Muldoon wrote in his autobiography that when he was training Sullivan for Kilrain in 89 they had multiple heated discussions .. among them was Muldoon taking credit for making sure Sullivan avoided potential matchups with Jackson that were discussed prior to that match so that is the window .. perhaps 88 or so .. if they fought in 88 and Sullivan lost his "reign" would have been four years shorter .. other than that I guess it would depend on how he lost , what condition he showed up in , etc ..

 

I thought this thread was about the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

 

As I have said previously, fighting Kilrain was a far higher priority than fighting Jackson, because Kilrain was recognized as being the World Champion by a large section of the media.

Sullivan simply chose a rival title claimant, over somebody who was just a very good contender.

There was no way that Sullivan could have fought Jackson or anybody else in late 1888, because he suffered from a near fatal bout of Typhoid Fever (I refer you to the chronology that I posted).

That means that realistically, a fight between Sullivan and Jackson, would have had to be after the Kilrain fight.

Sullivan chose to retire after the Kilrain fight, as was his god given right.

All that changes if Sullivan fights Jackson, is that he potentially loses his title to Jackson instead of Corbett.

Not an earth shattering change to his resume.