Who Was Better - Ron Lyle Or David Tua?

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wasn't Bugner also rated? And Tua has Ruiz, Rahman and Moorer. But Moorer was way past it and Ruiz still young. I think Rahman was the only one rated at the time.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Izon was in and out of rankings. Maskaev was also a good win, but he most likely wasn’t rated at the time.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, Maskaev wouldn't hit The Ring annual ratings until almost 10 years later.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    He fought Tua in 97, gained a ranking after beating Rahman in 99, and I believe gained a top five ranking after beating Jefferson in his next fight.
     
  5. Dubblechin

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    Moorer was a former world champ. Rahman, Maskaev and Ruiz were future champs.

    Ellis was a former champ at the end of his career.

    The point is, Tua destroyed them, whereas Lyle went the distance with Ellis who was at the end of his career.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    Maskaev was highly rated long before that. I believe he was in the top 5 of the WBA ratings when he knocked out Hasim Rahman in 1999 (two years after the Tua fight) and he was in the top 5 when he lost by shocking upset to Kirk Johnson in 2000.

    He was in line for a title shot in 2000 when Kirk stunned him (and everyone else) and the wheels came off.
     
  7. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correction: Lyle beat LeDoux, was not flattened by him.
    Tua had the better career overall. He was considered as a potential champ, whereas Lyle was respected but I don’t think many thought of him as a future champ.
    Shavers pretty much knocked Lyle out, but a generous hometown ref let it continue. Tua would be Earnie but with stamina.
     
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  8. mr. magoo

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    probably Tua. Better record. Never stopped. Comparable quality in wins but more emphatic performances. I think his chin and power are superior. His left hook would have been a problem for a lot of guys. Not much more I can think to go by unless you bring intangibles into the picture which is a science I don’t dabble much in.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

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    :lol: Have you even watched the fight?
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    Yes, Ledoux floored Lyle. Around the 7:50 mark.

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  11. Journeyman92

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    Both were more of the same H2H. Unremarkable in the grand scheme really. Lyle is the more interesting read/character.
     
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  12. Bokaj

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    My bad. He was in the annual ratings in 1999 and 2000.
     
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  13. Bokaj

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    That's a valid point. Lyle's best wins (Shavers and Bugner) were closer than Tua's. And you'd think he'd stop Ellis at that point as well.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

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    I can’t see Young losing to Quarry. I think he also has a better to decent chance against Young as well.
     
  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lyle
     
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