Who was better than Benitez at light welter from any era?

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Benitez h2h was a match for almost anyone in light welter history when he trained properly.

    Talent-wise, he was prodigously gifted and probably one of the ten best defensive fighters of the last 40 years. His reflexes were unreal. But he was lazy with his training. I don't blame him - he had in his father and manager a man who transparently saw his own son as a pure commodity.

    Any account I've read of Gregorio (including the wonderful one about the Curry fight above) paints him to be a heartless and contemptible father, so I have no reason to doubt that Wilfred's angst and his rebellion (in the form of not training) were born out of that relationship.

    Leaving that aside, his resume at 140 is thin, aside from one of the best wins in division history when he beat Cervantes.

    There are at least 10 fighters and probably a lot more that I would place above Benitez at 140 lbs based on overall achievement. But h2h he'd have been a tough fight for all of them.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Cervantes was a helluva lot closer to prime against Benitez than against Pryor. It was around 4 1/2 years earlier.
     
  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Cervantes was capable of beating Benitez. Shame we never got a rematch.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

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    It was a close match and Benitez was a bit underdone at 140 for sure.
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    @ 140 I'd certainly favor Napoles and Duran who jumped strait up to 147
     
  6. klompton2

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    During the telecast of the Curry fight they mention that it was supposed to be Duran in there.
     
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  7. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did Curry have the dumbest manager in history.

    Jessie Reid was a great trainer. But, not a good manager.

    Fortunanetely, he teamed with the shrewd Billy Baxter, and they guided Roger Mayweather very well, later on.

    He fights 8 days before The Benitez rematch and in a 12 hr. different time zone. LOL.

    Gregory Benitez sounded pretty ruthless and desperate for cash, but also pretty smart.

    He was right to bypass Duran and go for Palominino for the WBC title.
     
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  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benitiz would make Floyd Mayweather switch gears...meaning Floyd would go into his educated pressure fighter style ( with a high guard) that he used against Zab Judah, Demarcus Corley and others .I'd lean towards Mayweather
     
  9. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Locche vs Benitez would be a weird fight at 140. 15 rounds with 8 punches landed.
     
  10. Matt Bargas

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    “The Garden has offered Benitez $60,000 and wants him to come in at 143 pounds”

    So Benitez had already moved up to Welter and it would have been tough for him to make 140. Much less 135.
     
  11. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. Both guys standing in their respective corners shadow boxing for 3 minutes per rd would be
    just as easy. lol.
     
  12. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Three months before the 1st BCurry fight, Benitez defended his NYSAC World Linear Jr WW title against
    Ray Chavez Guerro (30-6-3). (RCG had most recently beat Clyde Gray (58-4-1) up at WW)
    This was Benitez's last fight as a junior welterweight, vs Guerro.


    1977-08-03 : [url]Wilfred Benitez[/url] 139½ lbs beat [url]Ray Chavez Guerrero[/url] 139¼ lbs by TKO at 1:41 in round 15 of 15
    • Location: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA
    • Referee: [url]Arthur Mercante[/url]
    • Judge: [url]Sam Irom[/url]
    • Judge: [url]Artie Aidala[/url]
    Notes
    • This was for the Lineal World Junior Welterweight Championship.
    • Benitez had been stripped of the [url]World Boxing Association[/url] title for not defending against [url]Antonio Cervantes[/url].
    • The fight was sanctioned as a world title match by the [url]New York State Athletic Commission[/url].
    • This was Benitez's last fight as a junior welterweight.