Who was better Tony Tucker or Mike Weaver?

I think it's insanely funny how overrated Tucker is when he's a worse Ernie Terrell. The only reasons that he's looked on so fortunately in these sorts of conversations are his good looking record, and his fights against Tyson and Lewis.
If we're talking about records, Weaver has the better lineup.
If we're talking about head to head, Weaver is likely to take the win (Unless you've got the judges from the Norris-Tucker bout).
And even if you just match up each fighter against the other's best opposition, Weaver would come out looking better.
Don't let the jheri curl fool you.

 

I give that to Weav. He gave a prime time Holmes a fight 2nd only to Norton, knocked him down. Beat undefeated Tate, who at the time was being seriously considered as near Holmes-level. Beat Coetzee, at the time a very vaunted challenger who ended up beating Dokes. He even knocked the crap out of peak Williams, when he himself was past it.

Tucker just doesn't compare well from those perspectives imo.

 

I always thought that the IBF having Tucker at #1 and Douglas at #2 was a scandal. Neither of those guys should have been within screaming distance of those ratings. I think that fight was set up to manufacture a belt holder who would be easy pickings for Tyson.

 

I go with Weaver. Shaky chin but good power and more of a willingness to win, which exposed the chin more. Tucker was not willing to risk it all like Weaver.

 

Despite his appearance Weavers weak point by admission was his stamina. In the beginning he was an off and on again pro who preferred to paint.

 

In this case, Tucker won me over with his performance against Tyson in 1987.
Some boxers experience their peak in defeat like Mercer vs. Lewis, or Tucker vs. Tyson.
That's why I think so-and-so Taker would beat Weaver.

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Because neither Don king nor Bob Lee had a crystal ball… that’s why.. Douglas beating Tyson THREE years later was completely irrelevant to what was going on in 1987. His only win of note was a decision over a slipping Greg Page who everyone and their brother was beating around that time. Tony Tucker’s record was even more padded than Brian Nielson’s and only went the distance because he was fighting to survive, not win. I could see having those guys ranked on the fringes of the top ten like 7-12. But 1 and 2 respectively ??? Nah. Hell, the reason Spinks dropped the IBF title fight Cooney instead was because they wanted to pay him crap for fighting Tucker which should say something about Tony’s true value as a contender at the time

 

If I was Spinks, the only thing that'd worry me about Tucker is having to go ten shitty rounds and potentially lose a bum decision because my opponent has a jheri curl.

 

Boxing is a business and they basically wanted the lineal heavyweight champion to defend his title for free

 

Hmm let's see...Weaver beat the undefeated champion/golden boy for the belt (Tate at the time was seriously being put in the same sentence as Holmes); then beat two at-the-time top contenders Coetzee and Tillis on defense. Who did Tucker beat as vaunted as 1979's Tate? Coetzee in 1980 was probably about the same level of contention as Douglas when Tucker fought him.

Not just that, but Weaver hurt Holmes one HELL of a lot more than Tucker ever hurt Iron Mike.

Respect, but I feel you're undervaluing Weaver's strengths.

 

The people who don't truly respect the early 80s titlists and contenders are the ones that haven't seen any of their fights, or lack any sort of knowledge of that sort of stuff.
If we take off the biggest two or three fights from each of their records, I think you get the picture a lot easier. Quality fights and wins should always take precedence unless we're strictly talking one-fight-prime head-to-head matches, and even then, Weaver's still ahead.

 

That's berserk. Tucker didn't even beat a titlist to win the vacant title and on top of that never defended it once.

Crazy talk.

 

in 1990. in 1987 Spinks dumped in can. Douglas gassed and gave up.

Weaver awesome one punch ko over hereofore rising WBA champ

1980 WBA more valuable