Who was better?

about 96% of zarates opponents were even worse than the guys toney fought from 95-2002.

 

why shouldnt it be taken seriously, u wanna call them great fighters. Alot of toneys bad performances came in 91/92 at middleweight, a division where he had to lose ridiculous amounts of weight in order to fight. As soon as he went up to 168, he was able to whoop barkely, prince charles, doug dewitt and all those other guys like hembrick etc with no problem at all.

 

You're using Dewitt to bolster this argument?

Zarate never lost to his division's equivalent of Montell Griffin or Drake Thadzi.

 

wouldnt u agree that the weight issue probably played a role in those performances though. I mean in 92 he arguablky losses to a can, then he moves up to a more suitable weight and does a pernell whitaker/santos cardone style paintjob on iran barkely and ktfo prince charles.

 

His division is historically ALOT weaker. Hes top 5 in his own division, if he was a lghtweight with that kind of resume, he wouldnt even be top 15.

 

Maybe you could be rating his opposition down because you haven't seen them or because they didnt fight in a glamor division so you haven't heard their names? It's a common mistake, but it doesn;t make them lesser fighter. It just means the media doesn't want to write about them.

 

They are lesser fighters than the people james toney beat.

 

Nope.

 

you do realize that the other guy admits toneys resume is better.

 

I don't. I wouldn't say Zarate's is markedly better man for man, but Zarate never suffered defeats to the lesser guys that Toney did. If you dont mark Toney down for that, youre not paying attention.