Who was closest to being 'unknockoutable'?

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  1. Manassa

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    Who was the hardest fighter to stop or knock out due to concussion? Doesn't necessarily have to be the most durable fighter - it could just be one who was really good at not being hit. But don't give me names like Muhammad Ali and Ray Robinson here. Those two were hurt badly more than once during their best years. We're looking for fighters who were truly battle tested and stood up to the best.

    I'm going for Marvin Hagler. Can't imagine any middleweight even flooring him momentarily, let alone knocking him out.
     
  2. Zakman

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    Chuvalo, McCall.
     
  3. Manassa

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    Bollocks. They were beaten into submission on film, particularly Chuvalo. 'Due to concussion' doesn't mean out cold, I mean beaten into a state where they can't fight back because they're being hurt by punches to the head.
     
  4. Dostoevsky

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    David Tua (yeah he's not exactly retired or classic but he needs to be mentioned)
    Hagler
    James Toney
     
  5. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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    toney and lamotta stick out to me as being hard to ko
     
  6. justaboxingfan

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    The first name that sticks out for me is Chuvalo. his head is abnormally huge just looking at it.
     
  7. Manassa

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    Chris Eubank
     
  9. Manassa

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    Was he really as reliable as Hagler? Honestly? Eubank was stopped in his career, regardless of whether he was past his prime or not. We never saw that with Hagler. Eubank was knocked down. He showed signs of weakness. We didn't get any of that from Hagler, who faced better opposition and even more punchers.
     
  10. MagnificentMatt

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    Hagler, Toney, Sweat Pea....Number one and three are a couple of my all time favorites...Toney on the other hand has my respect but...bleh
     
  11. MagnificentMatt

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    And thats a prime Pea...hehe,,Even though he was never actually "knocked out" in the first place.
     
  12. Jack

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    Based on his defence, Mayweather. I don't like coming into threads like these and naming the most recent hype-job, 'cause it makes me look like a dick when you get names from the turn of the century, but really, has anyone ever hit him clean with a real hard shot? Not often. If you were to count about the flush shots he's taken, you're looking at a tiny amount. He has never been in big trouble in a fight. Not once.

    You could "Tommy Hearns would KO him", and that may be true, but in all his career, he has shown an incredible amount of talent that has made sure he hasn't ever been hurt big time.

    I don't think there are many, if any, elite fighters who you could say the same about. Especially not in a world title career ranging from 130lbs to 154lbs.

    I don't know about Hagler. He certainly recuperated quickly, but he was hurt in his career. No doubt did he have an incredible chin, but I think he could have been knocked out. Right now with Mayweather, unless you go to a ridiculous weight, there isn't a boxer who could stop or hurt him.

    And I can't stand Mayweather either!
     
  13. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Good posts so far. I have to say Ray Mercer and Tex Cobb.
     
  14. dav8d777

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    That post was a great jumping off point for this. I will be ever so slightly off subject.

    One of the best "can't be knocked out" fighters was Jerry Quarry. He shows a lot of KO's, but he was a bleeder and therefore not "durable". Most of you know that Quarry died of dementia pugilistica as did his brother Mike. That is where I'll make a brief aside. Taking a punch well can stink in the end.

    That was not the question of course. Quarry took some of the hardest punches I have ever seen. Especially in the case of his fight with Frazier. He ate Frazier's best Sunday left hook. I don't mean he ate it and attacked, but he didn't go down.

    Some of the guys being mentioned here probably did have a better chin, but I personally never saw a chin like Quarry's. He cut easily and lost all of his fights that were at the highest echelon, but he could stand up after being hit by a wrecking ball.
     
  15. Manassa

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    He was? Who by? Hearns is about the only well known time Hagler was 'hurt', and even then, he was only briefly stunned. Seconds later he was tagging Hearns. Mugabi landed some good shots on Hagler but never hurt him. Eugene Hart might have hurt Hagler, but he covered it up so well I can't even tell - he took a left hook on the ear, but closed the gap immediately to stop himself taking any more. Dornell Wigfall staggered Hagler early in his career.

    Those are the only times I know of where Hagler was hurt. Three. And it's not like he was even badly hurt... Hell, two of them aren't really worth mentioning because they were so insignificant (Hearns & Hart). When you think about the amount of punchers Hagler faced (Hart, Mugabi, Hearns, Scypion, Sibson, Lee, Briscoe, Roldan, Obelmejias and others), that's quite incredible. Apparently never floored as an amateur, either. Can Mayweather say the same?