Who was exposed the most? Pavlik, Cotto or Malignaggi?

he had no choice...i guess u can say he technically quit...kind of like 99 % of kos when a guy just stands there and decides to let the ref step in....he is def no quitter though...and like I said i am not a big fan

 

******ed thread.

 

He quit. If he does it again he'll be labeled as a quiter.

 

seriosly...when a guy loses he is automatically

A) ovverrated
B) exposed
C) should retire


never just had a bad night...or lost to a better fighter

 

ok if he does he will...that will never happen again though...the only quitter I know is buddy mcgirt and he just quits on behalf of his fighters

 

Everybody who knew anything about Boxing knew that Margarito's only chance in this fight was by a stoppage.

The biggest problem I have with his prediction is that he said it would be an early stoppage. He didn't count on Cotto outboxing Margarito at all during the fight. That became the story of the fight until the drama in round 7.

I'm starting to think you haven't seen the fight. For the first 7 rounds, Cotto was winning almost every round. I kept my own scorecard and the only round I had given Margarito was the second and even that is debtable. Cotto was dominating rounds 3 and 4, he wasn't in survival mode until the 7th round, I believe.

Also, the most telling blows were Cotto's sharp counters which were making Margarito's head snap back in almost every round. Margarito's work for most part was subtle inside exchanges.

All of Cotto's weaknesses we were already aware of. We knew from his times at 140, and even against Judah at 147, Cotto can be hurt. We also knew Cotto was susceptible to the uppercut which were problems he had against Torres, and was the shot that kept hurting him against Judah.

I've watched the fight over 10 times, and I am a big Margarito fan. Cotto did work behind a jab at times, only came off second best when working on the inside, and wasn't emphatically beaten early.

We'll agree to disagree, but that wasn't a correct analysis.

 

Gotta disagree with this completely. Cotto put on a clinic for 6 rounds and ran out of gas. Maybe his stamina can be questioned, but I think in a rematch he doesnt go for the KO with every punch and just outpoints Margo.

 

Margo would've won a decision had Cotto's team not thrown in the towel. He was ahead on all the cards at the time of the stoppage.

He said early to mid rounds. That would mean anywhere between rounds 1 and 8. He was off by two rounds. That's pretty good.

Trust me, I've seen the fight several times

I'm starting to believe that you were scoring the fight with a healthy amount of bias. Margo clearly won round two, that's not really debateable. Cotto controlled the action in round 1. After he got hurt in round 2, the fight started to change. He started to run moreso than box in about round 3, 4 or 5. I personally scored rounds 1,3,4 and 5 for Cotto. Margo won the rest of the rounds. Round 1 was the only round where Cotto was truly controlling the action. The rest of the time, he was getting in good punches but he didn't look comfortable out there. Margo was trapping him against the ropes causing more damage.

Cotto's sharp counters couldn't keep Margo off of him. Meanwhile, Margo's shots were busting up Cotto's face, and forcing him to retreat. The body blows slowed Cotto down as well. You win fights by doing more damage. Margo was clearly doing more damage in there. Cotto's face, the fact that he took two knees, and the scorecards reflected this.

What wasn't known was that his boxing skills weren't quite up to par. He was getting trapped way too easily despite the fact that Margo was simply following him around the ring.

Again, he said early to mid rounds. It was an emphatic win, and he was only slightly off in terms of how long it would take. He was also correct in saying Cotto's skillset wouldn't allow him to capitalize on his foot and handspeed advantages.

It was only 49 seconds and he predicted Margo by emphatic stoppage. That's what happened. The only thing wrong was that the timing of the stoppage wasn't quite right.

 

Gotta disagree with you. If Cotto was a smart boxer, he could've won. He clinched only like 5 times in that fight.

 

I guess whoever was the shortest price on betting charts technically is the winner.

 

Everybody who predicted a Margarito win thought it wouldn't go the distance. It didn't.

When he is summing up he says, "early". He overlooked Cotto's advantages in skill and speed, which ultimately helped Miguel take at least 5 of the opening 6 rounds.

Okay.

I'm a Margarito fan and put down a £30 bet on him to win by stoppage.

I gave him round 2.

I don't see how the fight changed from round 2. In the next 3 rounds, Cotto did exactly what he did in round 1, land the harder shots, and avoid the majority of Margarito's punches.

I did, also.

I think Cotto dominated a lot of rounds with the exception of rounds 2, 8, and towards the end of the fight. Round 10 was dominated by Cotto until the last 30 seconds.

There is no question that Cotto looked uncomfortable after round 7. However, he was still landing the better shots in round 8 and possibly 9.

The eye-catching shots were being landed by Cotto, and before the 7th round, Antonio landed cleanly on very few occasions.

Margarito undoubtedly caused the more damage, however.

If anything, Cotto's skill was on display for everybody to see. He landed everytime he threw his counters, and did a goodjob of avoiding Margarito's punches until stamina became a factor in the fight. Cotto's conditioning may have been an issue, but his skill certainly wasn't.

Cotto did capitalize on his foot and handspeed advantages, until he was eventually caught on the ropes. Like I've said, for the opening six rounds, and periods even after the 7th, Cotto was slipping out of the way of punches, and landing hard counters. The issue in this fight wasn't Cotto's inability to capitalize on his advantages, it was just that Margarito couldn't and wouldn't be hurt.

90% of people predicting Margarito predicted it by emphatatic stoppage, it was the most logical outcome if Antonio was pull out the victory.

The only things wrong were:

Overlooking the first half of the fight being dominated by Miguel Cotto, cancelling out his "early stoppage" prediction.

The reason Cotto lost was because of conditioning, and he didn't have enough power to give Margarito a reason to slow down. not because he couldn't use his advantages effectively, because he did for the majority of the fight, beating him to the punch, over and over again.

You can be as fast as you want, but if you're not hurting your opponent, it could be an issue and it was.

 

stupid ass thread...

Cotto wasn't exposed you clown

and i honestly,cant really say Malignaggi was either...he hasn't looked good since his loss to Cotto, the only reason people thought he'd win was if both his hands were good (or atleast for me that was the situation)...which apparently they weren't

 

Big you are honestly to me the best poster on the site. Love reading your input. :good

 

pavlik, it was a 12-0 blow-out. hatoon/malignaggi was 9-1 before the stoppage (i gave malignaggi the 1st round)

 

I hardly think that Cotto's name belongs in an exposed list..!!!!