Who was Fritzie Zivic?

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  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was checking out Boxrec, and randomly came across this fighter. His final record was 157-65, hardly world beating if one just goes by numbers- even if you consider many of those happened at the end of his career. However, looking through his resume, he also beat both Henry Armstrong twice (one of only 2 fighters to KO Armstrong, and he nearly did it both times) and Jake Lamotta.

    So, my question to the classic fight experts is this: Who was Zivic, and what kind of fighter was he?
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    World class ATG welter and self proclaimed second dirtiest fighter of all time.

    Straight backed and with a good jab he could box or brawl. Heavy handed. Tough as teak.
     
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  3. janitor

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    Very cerebral fighter. Always came up with a superb fight plan which took away his oponents game. God help you if you fouled him because he would foul you back far more efectively.

    Would be a dangerous oponent for any welterweight that ever lived.
     
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  4. KTFO

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    First class journeyman.
     
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Go back and learn a bit about him.
     
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  6. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Former Welter Champ.Once wrote a book entitled "Ya gotta fight dirty"
     
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  7. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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    he was a very dirty fighter who used his thumb to try and blind the other fighter.....i dont like him but pretty good fighter
     
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  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the info, I like finding out more on the "obscure" great fighters :good
     
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  9. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    to whom did he feel #2?
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Harry Greb.

    Zivic on Greb: If you lifted your foot of the floor, Greb would bite you on the sole of you foot.
     
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  11. Jack Dempsey

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    Part of a great boxing family, his brother Pete wasn't too bad either
     
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    Billy Conn praised him highly in the book "In This Corner." Said fighting Zivic ten rounds was like a college education in fighting. He'd try any damn thing on you, Conn said. Absolutely filthy fighter.
     
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  13. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Came from a family of fighters was very popular in Pittsburg his home town and dethroned Armstrong and beat him even worse in the rematch. Even holds a win over LaMotta. Would give any welterweight a tough time used everything he could in a fight. His record does not do him justice many of his loses came at the end of his career.

    Heres a pic of him and Conn after their fight
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  14. KTFO

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    I know enough about him. More than you could bear. You wouldn't wanna hear all the truth,teenie boy.
     
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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not wishing to be inpertinent but if you think Fritzie Zivic was just a high grade journeyman then you know next to nothing about him.
     
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