Who was harder to hit: Pep, Locche, or Whitaker?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Flo_Raiden, May 19, 2012.


  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,866
    29,687
    Oct 12, 2010
    Better yet, I'd love to see a fighter with the athletic talents of Roy Jones with the fundamental skills of Pep, Locche, and Whitaker. He'd be unbeatable and untouchable for a long period of time.
     
  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,866
    29,687
    Oct 12, 2010
    Robinson had nowhere near the defensive skills of either of those 3 to be quite honest. In fact his defense really wasn't all that great, although his incredible offense made up for that.
     
  3. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

    10,305
    544
    Feb 17, 2010
    I think Robinson gets underestimated defensively often.Maybe because a lot of the most widespread footage is him as an aging middle against some really awkward offensive fighters.

    he's very hard to hit twice in a row for the kind of offensive brutality he's often dishing out.
     
  4. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

    7,549
    7,408
    May 9, 2012
    In my view the guy in your avatar was even closer.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,560
    Jul 28, 2004
    He's either underrated defensively or he's got one of the greatest sets of whiskers ever...cause just look at his record..only stopped by the heat vs Maxim.
     
  6. whosthere

    whosthere Knock Knock Full Member

    282
    1
    May 14, 2012
    Maybe, but being an obvious fan, I usually leave Roberto out unless the convo is about him directly. Otherwise it looks like I'm just promoting my guy...which I suppose I have been guilty of.
     
  7. whosthere

    whosthere Knock Knock Full Member

    282
    1
    May 14, 2012
    I don't think Robinson's defense is quite on par with the three fighters under discusion, but if you watch fights of him in his prime (try his 52 title defense against Graziano - it's on you tube) you see a lot of Willie Pep in the footwork, combined with a superior jab...then of course, his offense was better than any of the three, so he didn't have to call on that defensive skill as fequently.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,560
    Jul 28, 2004
    s like Robinson, Monzon, Sanchez, etc., were not known to be typical defensive whizzes maybe, but the longevity of their careers (SRR and Monzon anyway) and the fact that they were never stopped...shows great defensive prowess in my book.
     
  9. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,604
    290
    Apr 18, 2007
    Ray Arcel endorsed Locche over Pep, Benny Leonard, Robby and all the other old timers he witnessed that one might expect him to favor as the greatest defensive specialist of all time. He had to study Locche closely to design the successful challenge of Peppermint Frazer in dethroning El Intocable.
     
  10. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,370
    45
    Nov 27, 2007
    I heard that before.

    I've also heard other trainers put Pep right at the top and other having prime Sweet Pea as the best of them all.
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

    13,744
    88
    Nov 8, 2004
    I can imagine Willie being extremely hard to catch with his legs and his quick hands, which would keep the opposition weary of leaping in on him.

    Locche had the most theatrical defense, but I think you'd find good body punchers finding him pretty consistently.

    Whitaker was pretty solid when he wanted to be, but he was often prone to letting shots get through due to his arrogance and bravado.