Who was/is the biggest hype job in boxing history?

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Danny Jacobs put up a hell of a fight FARRRR better than Canelo's PED's assisted effort. Danny would kick Canelo's ass no problem
    In a fair fight
     
  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. They hype Loma like he's the second coming of Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard, but the guy can barely sell and his best win is Linares, who only even had a title a 135 due to fighters like Broner and Crawford moving up. Also, the fact that he was willing to pay an easy style matchup like Linares over $1 million, but wouldn't entertain paying Salido anything decent says it all about how much of a cherry picker Loma is.

    Crawford isn't lacking when it comes to his ring work, but as far as being the top guy or a big attraction I just don't see it. This guy has no personality and gives the most bland interviews. Despite fighting for the 140 undisputed title he gave zero effort in promoting the event. Indongo can barely speak English, but managed to promote the fight better.
     
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  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. I find it funny that Hopkins gets a lot of criticism for beating Trinidad and De La Hoya, who were both former welterweight champs, but current middleweight champs when they fought him. But GGG is given all the credit in the world for beating Kell Brook, who at the time was still a Welterweight champ that immediately jumped two weightclasses and Vanes, a light middleweight fighter that had been out the ring for two straight years.
     
  4. bruce_keyes

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    David Price!! Everyone said he is the next Klitschko. even Lennox Lewis. END THREAD
     
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  5. KiwiMan

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    A single fight isn't really a good reason to classify a fighter as a hype job. Especially as:

    A) How good Jacobs is more or less unknown. He's got some decent wins (Quillin, Sulecki) and a KO loss to Pirog when he was younger, although he did take that fight under difficult circumstances. So for all we know Jacobs might actually be very good, or he may have had the performance of his life - the result does not necessarily prove GGG as a hype job. Also Jacobs was only a 5/1 underdog which means an upset was a real possibility.

    B) You can tell that GGG isn't just a hype job simply by noting that his peers all respect him. Ward was critical of GGG's decision not to move up to fight him but he is also on record saying that Golovkin has elite talent and was being ducked by the other top MWs. Charlo said Golovkin is one of the best ever; Jacobs, Saunders, Froch, Martinez and even Canelo have all admitted how good Golovkin is.

    C) Casuals always overrate KO power so having some crazy fans is no surprise. But they don't really count; none of them are in charge of anything that matters, and most have switched somewhere else now that Golovkin is getting older / failed to KO Jacobs and Canelo. But most knowledgeable fans realize that at the very top it usually comes down to skills and power on its own is not enough.
     
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  6. Napoleon2

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    This trio right here. Mesi was never exposed so I guess he doesn't quiet fit in this thread, but these 3 didn't live up to the Lewis, Tyson, and Holyfield expectations. Audley Harrison is probably the biggest hypejob I've ever seen. Amir Khan is another one. I know he accomplished some things after getting knocked out that first and second time, but he had more hype than Lew Alcindor.
    Apologies for not knowing how to post a picture.
     
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  7. Farmboxer

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    The name Wilder comes to my mind first..........................
     
  8. drenlou

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    The middleweight division was weak, prior to the Jacobs fight so there was really no telling how good GGG actually was, till... He fought a WW in brook who was perceived as being too small with no kind of chance at all, but was the first guy to really show Golovkins vulnerabilities..

    Then came the Jacobs fight. The odds as they stood really didn't reflect how lopsided it was on this site in favor of a GGG knockout, and let's be honest Jacobs was supposed to get destroyed... Never happened.. That's the second time against top competition that he looked vulnerable.

    Then came Canelo.. No need to discuss that as everybody already knowa my position on that fight.. He just hasn't lived up to the hype imo. People may think I'm a EE hater but theyre idiots.. You don't see me talking bad about Loma, usyk, Kovalev, massive because they earned all the credit. And that's it.
     
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  9. KiwiMan

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    For me actually the Brook fight didn't show too much. When a top MW and top WW meet, I expect a faster WW to be able to get some shots in before the bigger, stronger guy eventually uses his size and power to prevail. That's pretty much what happened.

    On this site, yes, but there are trolls with numerous accounts each. The odds are a better reflection of the general opinion. I do agree that GGG by knockout was the considered the most likely outcome, at least on paper, but as I said, if Jacobs goes on to prove himself truly elite in hindsight it shouldn't have been such a surprise. Obviously easy to say so in hindsight though.

    I know you think Canelo won 7-5, but surely you still admit it was a very close and competitive fight, seeing that a clear majority saw it the other way. With all that into account, how can someone who gives a prime Canelo that much difficulty be a hype job, unless Canelo himself is also a bit of a hype job? You make a reasonable case that he did not live up to the hype, but:

    A) It's a long way from there to being the biggest hype job of recent times. At the end of the story, GGG will make the HoF and he has proven himself elite. The hype may have exceeded that at one point, but still, I posted lists of fighter who were hailed as future ATGs but didn't even make world level.

    B) GGG has always had a number of detractors who underestimated him. A good number even on here predicted Canelo by schooling, Murray by KO, Rubio by KO. An old thread from 2011 was bumped recently and it was funny how most posters back then clearly underrated Golovkin and did not recognise elite talent.
     
  10. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Jacobs got a lot of credit for his performance in that fight. I think on this forum that loss is more or less seen as his best win in a weird way.
     
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  11. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    There were enough on here picking Canelo by KO too, although when that didn't come close to happening no credit was given.

    I see Dren's point, I just think if he had never joined the forum he wouldn't have this opinion. A form has all the extremes of every view.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    Most soothed their butthurt by crying about Jacobs being a roided out 200 pounder who cheated the weigh in.

    GGG fans are still in denial about that fight.
     
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  13. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Most of us thought Golovkin won a close fight and that Jacobs put in a class performance, really showing himself to be at the top end of the pack. Certain posters obliviously reacted way over the top and ridiculously but that worked both ways.
     
  14. technocrato

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    Bute had nine title defences, he had a bad night facing Froch, who knocked many people down, and had seven concussions in that fight. He then fought scared for few years after that. A shot Bute, over the hill Bute gave really competitive fight to prime Badu Jack (tie) and prime James Degale. Bute was also winning before getting hit from a right in the Alvarez fight. GGG said at some point Bute was the best boxer he fought in his career. Bute was legit.
     
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  15. Txomo

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    People here is calling hypejob every fighter that has lost a couple of fights... calling hypejobs to guys that hae belts on different weight classes, or have defended a title more than five times. That's crazy xD