Who was lineal champion in Welterweigth 2009?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ra's Al-Ghul, Nov 21, 2020 at 10:49 AM.

Who was the man to beat in Welterweight from 2009 (onwards)?

  1. Floyd Mayweather (by his domination over Baldomir)

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  2. Shane Mosley (by his destruction of Margarito)

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  3. Miguel Angel Cotto (by his questionable win against Clottey)

    5.0%
  4. Andre Berto (by his controversial decision vs. Collazo)

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  5. Nobody

    30.0%
  1. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    No Cotto vs. Margarito could have been (in summer 2008), as the last made IBF title-holder Cintron to a pulk of clump again.
     
  2. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Active Member Full Member

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    In 2009? Floyd was, and I never insinuated otherwise you brainless moron. :lol:
     
  3. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Baldomir defeated undisputed champion Judah, who won that from Spinks, who unified vs. Mayorga, who unified vs. Forrest who won it from Mosley.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He did fight Bradley after Floyd.

    IMO, there has not been a new lineal champ at 147 since Floyd won it.
    Ring gave Floyd another belt for beating Guerrero, but that was just GBP shenanigans... like having Guerrero as nr 10 P4P, Broner suddenly at nr 4 P4P or Alvarez in the P4P just before the Floyd fight.
     
  5. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    You did, as you pretend Pacquaio was lineal champion in Welterweight and became that against Cotto, you distingiush edwardian liar. So he was it apparently not in 5 weight-classes...!:idea:

    You also alleged Mayweather was still retired when Cotto fought Pacquaio...:deal:
     
  6. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Active Member Full Member

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    I challenge you to find one post where I said that beating Cotto made Pacquiao the lineal champion. I can point to several where I said that it didn't, and even linked you to a source that said which fight did (the third Bradley fight, you idiot). But again that whole 'English' thing and you being a moronic liar.

    Also, when did I say that Floyd was retired during the Cotto fight? You literally make **** up to make your arguments work, that's why I just started trolling you. How's that Guinness Book of World Records argument holding up? You know, the one where you said they don't count Ring belts...unless you go to their website where, surprise surprise, they do?:deal:
     
  7. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    That was the third fight, but the second was before Mayweather. And their third was possible a non-title bout.

    I had Guerrero too in my top 15 pound for pound, because he was three division champion when and defeated Casamayor in another weight-class (where he didn't held an official world title).
     
  8. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    So here we go.

    And who shall it be, against some previous victim of himself, who he had already defeated before he fought Mayweather (who only won against Vargas and draw with Chaves in the meantime)?

    I don't think that suits for a lineal title, especially as it was just for the WBO international title and not even a world championship. I also suppose that Thurman and Garcia were likely higher rated than Bradley in 2016 (at Welterweight).
     
  9. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Active Member Full Member

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    Do...do you see the words, "Also, it wasn't Cotto?" Wasn't. As in, was not. As in, it was not Cotto Manny beat to be the lineal champion at Welter. My God you are physically incapable of not making a fool of yourself.
     
  10. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    So just answer, who it was then, was it Vargas or Bradley or Matthyse or Thurman (the latest I could possible understand)?

    And as you just maintained it was because of the retirement of Mayweather, I had to think it was meant this before his comeback against Marquez.
     
  11. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Active Member Full Member

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    I already answered it was Bradley, but if you want to argue it should be Thurman I'd be down for that discussion with someone who isn't you, Mr. Guinness Book.

    Because as we all know, there was only one time in his life Floyd Mayweather retired. :duh
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Mayweather retired.

    Pacquiao and Bradley were the top two ranked WW fighters in the world when they fought a third time.
     
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    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was never a scheduled rematch with De La Hoya
     
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    drenlou The Real KING OF THE HILL! Full Member

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    Floyd beat baldomir in 06. Fought oscar and hatton in 07 and then retired. He lost his lineancy there after. When he came back the number 1 guy at ww was Cotto. He lost to cheato and mosely beat cheato. If anyone was lineal at that point it was Mosely. But we all know what happened when floyd fought mosely. So i guess it can be floyd, but answering the question from 09.. There was only 1 man at the top at that time. And it was Sugar Shane Mosely.
     
  15. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It depends on if you vacate the lineal title after Floyd’s fake retirement.

    It was tentatively scheduled for September 2008. Oscar and Floyd couldn’t come to terms (most likely $$), so Floyd had his bull**** retirement in June. 2008 wasn’t even over before Floyd’s team said they were looking at offers for a new fight.

    The fight we did end up getting during Mexican Independence Day weekend that year was Marquez-Casamayor, which turned out to be pretty good. Much better than Mayweather-DLH 2 most likely would have been.
     
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