Who Was Not A Great Fighter?

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  1. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    FItzsimmons had a general lack of ability to set traps. That's pretty fundamental. I feel that excludes him from the greats list, honestly. Among other things. Baldness, underwear, etc.
     
  2. 20thCenturyBox

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    In many ways, a boxer is defined as much by who he loses to as who he beats. Ali lost to Frazier and Norton. He beat Liston and Foreman. Those facts help define him.

    Calzaghe never lost a pro bout, although some of his wins were controversial. If it's true that a fighter can only beat the man in front of him, what more do you want from Calzaghe? He beat every opponent, and defended his world titles numerous times. That's very rare, even for great boxers.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Sorry Jm, I forgot he was your unc.
    He was most certainly a great fighter!
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He definitely had something Pug.
    He hung tough in the hardest era, beat one of greatest of that time.
    Nearly beat Norton to.
     
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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Don’t do it again or you’ll really get something from me after 30 minutes of clinching, rolling, slipping and running.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Your definitely of Jimmy Young s blood, my friend!
     
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  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Yeah Ferg, some think he beat Norton also but I think Kenny nicked the points - wisely targeting Young’s body more than his far more elusive head. Close fight all the same.
     
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  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Uncle Jim always said his power was underrated - I believe him, he once put all of Madison Square garden to sleep in one nights work
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lol
    Like it!
     
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  10. quest00

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    Dont' forget his dominant performance over a very talented and undefeated Gary Russel
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think either Young or Norton were great fighters,but each must have their own definition of the word.
     
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  12. bboyrei

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    For Norton even if he got the nod against Ali which many people believe, his devastating losses to big punchers is what really hurts him the most. Still think he is a great fighter but just out of ATG range.
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Ali was also a shadow of his former self by the third fight, so it really wouldn't have been a terribly great win anyway.
     
  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I think they both had moments where they showed how good they were, Norton V Ali, Holmes and Jimmy Against Foreman, but never quite good enough to beat the best of their day.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Any HOF fighter is by default great imo.

    There are also greats who haven't yet made it in.