Hi Buddy. For whats its worth, I too do not think either Young or Norton were great fighters, to include them in the great fighters list, would I believe diminish somewhat the fighters that were indeed truly great, if it's HWs, then the likes of, Ali, Louis, Rocky, Dempsey, etc, so I would put them in the very good bracket, because they were. stay safe mcvey,chat soon.
A man dimensions don’t define him, the belt is a size 28 and many HWs had a 30-32 inch waist, tube shaped men - it’s about proportions one can be both tubular and small waisted, that was Bob a great champion shaped as kin to a mars bar but with girly waist. Most of all I admire Ruiz for all of these reasons - the big Ruiz?