Who was the best boxer ever with losing record

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  1. brucebufershair

    brucebufershair Active Member Full Member

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    I was wondering who you guys think was the best boxer ever to end his career with more losses than wins ?. Maybe a guy who was matched really hard but always put up a hard fight even against world class opposition or a journey man who pulled out that one shock win.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fireman Jim Flynn must be there somewhere? I think he had a few more losses that wins.

    Good thread!
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Better then some of the recent regurgitated **** on here lately.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

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    Emanuel Augustus might be working on it. Almost at a losing record now, unfortunately.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Battling Gahee!!!!11!!1!!!!!1one!!!!

    He twice extended Tiger Flower the distance, and beat Clem Johnson.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Clem Johnson!!!!11!!!1112two!!!2one!
     
  8. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Put down the bottle, chum. You're almost on my level.
     
  9. Doc Dynamo

    Doc Dynamo Member Full Member

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    I think Flynn's a little over 500. I did a quick count and came up with 20 fights he had against HOF fighters. This doesn't even include his fights against the Luther mcCarty/Carl Morris/Gunboat Smiths of the world. He must have a really brave manager.
     
  10. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's the 1st one that comes to my mine as well, but officially, he had a winning record.

    Jackie Sharkey beat Memphis Pal Moore, Frankie Burns, Kid Williams, Pete Herman twice, Jimmy Wilde, among others.

    Battling Bozo had a official losing record and he fought 3 draws with Maxie Rosenbloom, beat Yale Okun, Lou Scozza, Pete Latzo twice, but that was when he was way passed his prime. He also drew with Babe Hunt and Al Gainer.

    There other ones, such as Frankie Wallace.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Big Boy Brown

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    He won interim heavyweight championship recognized by Maryland Commision in 1942 with a decision over skillful Lou Brooks. Big Brown was described by the papers and by his cousin, joe louis, as a big puncher.

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  12. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My nominee would be Teddy "Red Top" Davis.

    Career record 71 wins--75 losses--6 draws.

    Davis fought the best from the late forties into the early sixties. He worked his way up to a shot at Sandy Saddler for the Featherweight title in 1955, losing by a unanimous decision.

    Davis defeated--Paddy DeMarco, Percy Bassett, Charley Riley, Tommy Collins, Paul Jorgensen, Armand Savoie, and George Araujo.

    Among the many top men he lost to--Saddler, Willie Pep, Del Flanagan, Joe Brown, Art Aragon, Wallace Smith, Kenny Lane, and Flash Elorde.

    In his best performance against Willie Pep in 1948, he lost 46 to 49 on the lone card.
     
  13. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd agree on "Red Top," OF -- tough as a cob! On a good night, he was more than a handful for the best.
     
  14. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While Red Top Davis is my #1 choice, a few others come to mind:

    Frank Buford--Won 22--lost 31--drew 7 (kos-2)

    Looking at that, one would think this fellow was a hopeless fighter, until one examines whom he defeated.

    Buford had wins over--Clarence Henry, Turkey Thompson, Bob Dunlap, Willie Bean, Abel Cestac, and Joe Kahut.

    He was clearly much better than his final record indicates.
     
  15. OLD FOGEY

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    Manuel Ramos--won 25--lost 29--drew 3 (ko's 19)

    All the losses at the end of his career obscure that Ramos was probably the best heavyweight ever to come out of Mexico and was a top contender for Joe Frazier's title. He defeated Eddie Machen and Ernie Terrell to earn a shot at Frazier. I think he was ranked the #4 contender.