Who was the best boxer ever with losing record

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  1. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the first Ring Magazine ratings in 1924, the top four challengers for Jack Dempsey's championship were Harry Wills, Tommy Gibbons, Charley Weinert, and Quintin Romero Rojas of Chile.

    Quintin Romero Rojas--25 wins--50 defeats--8 draws (10 ko's)

    Romero Rojas was stopped 28 times in his career. He simply has a terrible record. He was a top man in 1924, though. He had posted ko victories over Larry Gains and Jack Sharkey, and had beaten top contender Jack Renault.

    It obviously all went pretty far south pretty quickly.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ross Purrity and Emanuel Augustus
     
  3. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    Some great answers in here.

    I can't help but think that Big Boy Brown looks like a blown up version of SRR
     
  4. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Scrap Iron Johnson was one fireplug and lived up to his knickname, cant always go by Box records, he was stopped alot but make no mistake about it he had an excellent chin. Hung tough with Fraizer in a 10 round decision loss, and from what i hear took everything and the kitchen sink from Foreman,Liston before being stopped in the 7th to both guys. He has draws with former contenders Manuel Ramos,Scott Ledoux. He also has a "Special Regonniton" inucdtion into the WBHOF.

    Alll this with 21-28-5-11kos.
     
  5. janitor

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    Jeff Clark had a loosing record on boxrec untill a few years ago when further research fleshed his resume out a bit.

    This guy is basicaly the Sam Langford of the middleweight division and there have been atempts to get him into the hall. I think he might have been on the last ballot.
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKK_aN0pBaw[/ame]
     
  7. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember Teddy [Red Top Davis] very well...A very good journeyman trial horse in the 40-50s...This fight was in 1955 MSG, Saddler Dec. 15rd.
    Red Top Davis won 71 fights and lost 75 bouts in his career...
    One other comment, as styles make fights, this film reinforces what I posted previously....That...Alexis Arguello would have stopped the great Sandy Saddler in his prime..Saddler tall,stand up ,was easy to hit, and Arguello could hit for sure...Arguello by KO,methinks...
     
  8. mr. magoo

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    Ross Purity did not have a LOSING record.. A fighter with a losing record, means that they have more defeats than victories, or no victories at all.. Purity won a fair number of his fights and actually defeated a few decent names here and there, while also going the distance with a lot of good up and coming prospects and contenders. He was stopped only 3 times in 54 fights and managed to stop 27 of his 31 victims. Although his 31-20-3-27 record isn't pretty, I've never considered Purity to be a bum at all..
     
  9. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He had your man Morrison on the canvas twice. However he doesn't belong on this thread for reasons explained above.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    He's still far enough away from breaking even that if he does, criminal charges should be pressed against whoever sanctions those bouts.

    Consecutive KO losses. :verysad
     
  11. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With a losing record by a margin of ONE defeat, and only three stoppage losses in 144 bouts, I think Lowry qualifies for mention, and I'm somewhat surprised that Tiger Ted's name hasn't been brought up yet.

    Divide Lowry's record in half, then a quarter, and you get a more recent heavyweight journeyman with a losing record by a margin of ONE defeat, Bob Stallings. He was stopped eight times in 63 fights, but somehow managed to decision lethal punchers Mac Foster and Earnie Shavers for his biggest wins.

    Leroy Caldwell was a talented stylist who put together a respectable late career win streak between late 1980 and late 1981.

    David Capo was far, far better than a final record of 2-19-0 would suggest. Until his final match, everybody he was paired with had a winning record of not less than 4-0 (and that 4-0 novice was Azumah Nelson). He was only stopped twice (once by Tyrone Downes, and once by Alberto Mercado), while being criminally overmatched. Among those who failed to halt him were LaPorte 2X (the first time in Dave's professional debut, when Juan was already 5-1-0), Nelson, Roach, Kotey and Julian Solis. But in just his second match, he was offered up as a sacrificial lamb to 8-0-0 Olympic hero Leo Randolph, and upset the apple cart by handing the future WBA SB Titlist his first defeat. Anybody who saw Capo go ten torrid rounds on an early ESPN telecast with a peaking 20-1-0 Freddie Roach from the Bradford Hotel in Boston knows Capo was way better than 2-19-0. Cases like Capo's make me wonder about the dismal records of others who boxed extensively.
     
  12. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Australian George Cook is another who perhaps warrants a mention. He fought from 1916 to 1938 and fought them all.

    Wins 45--losses 55--draws 12 (ko's 11) (ko by 17)

    Obviously had no power, but he seemed to be able to put on a good show against anyone. Was once Aussie heavyweight champion, and four times fought for the British Empire heavyweight championship.

    Defeated--Paulino Uzcudun (2), Tom Heeney, Larry Gains, and Andre Lenglet. Also Johnny Risko on a foul

    Drew with--Hans Breitenstraeter, Babe Hunt

    Lost to--Colin Bell, Jimmy Clabby, Georges Carpentier, Joe Beckett, Phil Scott, Harry Persson, Jack Sharkey, Young Stribling, Jim Maloney, Victorio Campolo, Tuffy Griffiths, Primo Carnera, Walter Neusel, Larry Gains, Jack Petersen, Ben Foord, Don McCorkindale, Jack London

    In 1927, following his wins over Uzcudun, Heeney, and Gains, Cook was ranked #15 in the world by Ring Magazine. Fought all over the world against top heavyweights for over 20 years.

    *In fairness to Cook, as a globetrotter he was often fighting in the other fellow's back yard and probably got shafted with quite a few home town decisions.
     
  13. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To look at Angel Robinson Garcia's 134 'n 68 slate, you'd dismiss him as a sad trial horse, but in the late '50s in Miami, he looked like the second-coming of Kid Gavilan standing in the pocket and throwing combinations.