Who was the best? Examples of boxers displaying personal integrity / moral courage

I never said he didn't. The heart of the analogy was not serving in the military, but rather not obeying laws of the existing system.

 

Devon, don't be disengenuous, and put freakin lies in my post...Did I call ISLAM a hate group ? Did I. ? You are a scoundrel by trying to make your point by putting words in my mouth...You know very well I meant the Black Muslim hate group, and not the religion of Islam...
P.S. The people who bombed the World Trade Center and killed 3000 innocent souls, BELIEVED in their cause...Is that not your version of "integrity" ?. atschatschatsch

 

oh sorry i actually thought thats what you meant

 

Tony, so if I don't like paying taxes, don't like paying for auto insurance, wish not to be searched at the airport, don't wish to wear clothes on a hot day, and hundreds of other laws in a society, I can defy the "existing "
system as you put it ? Tony, how long would this country exist ? Think man and remember their are millions of your citizens who THINK opposite you...
How long can a society exist if everyone obeyed the laws that they personally liked ? You Tony, know the answer...Cheers...

 

Max Baer despite having a bit of rep was extremely charitable and had alot of integrity giving alot of time and money into dozens of childrens programs around the country. Friends of Baer said when driving around the city if he saw a homeless person he'd demand the car be halted, would walk out and give the homeless person a wad of cash.

But i agree with most Schmeling is the greatest example you can find for those with integrity and moral courage, he risked his life numerous times, gave up money numerous times for others.

 

Schmeling takes the title then. How ironic, he must have been the second most hated man in the US after beating Louis and with WW2 coming along

 

S the are you against shmeling . Because he defied the law

 

Burt . How do you feel about a former American President dodging the draft?:think

 

This may be a controversial statement, but my pick is.


JACK JOHNSON

 

I'm guessing he voted for him :rofl

 

The difference between Schmeling defying the law and Ali dodging the draft is that Schmeling did so to rescue life and in opposition to an immoral, ethic-less and criminal regime. Ali dodged the draft to not go to war. It was not a civil rights issue. If he would have gone to prison for sitting on the back of the bus or because only blacks would have been drafted than yes, he would have a case. However that was not the case. He still stood up for what he believed in and suffered for it, so he still should be considered for honourable mentions.

Anyway, my Top5 would look like this, in order of "appearance":
Jack Johnson
Johann Trollmann - he might be my number one choice. He died in a concentration camp for his courage.
Barney Ross
Max Schmeling
Joe Louis

 

Michael Watson for the way he has carried himself throughout, during and after his career.

 

Burt's point is that defying any law is bad.

 

I disagree, the context, which law it is and the reasoning behind defying has to be taken into consideration.

 

OMG. Anyone making a case for Ali being on this thread is dilusional!