Who was the best fighter to never beat a top 10 contender?

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We often get the threads about who was the best not to win/challenge for a 'World title'. And so often (normally down in part to me), we just end up debating as to what qualifies as a 'world title'. So I thought I would put a slight spin on an interesting idea; so...

    Who was the best fighter to never beat a top 10 contender (or champion)?

    If we use 'The Ring' as a way of clarifing who's or what 'top 10' means; who is the best fighter to not beat a top 10 contender? This would include fighters who got a top 10 rating, without winning a fight against one of their peers.

    The only exception I would ask, is not to include fighters who were sadly taken from us 'too early'. 'Too early' would be a fighter who had their last fight under the age 30, with less than 40 pro fights to their name.
     
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  2. Low blow

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    Pretty tough question for me and probably most people.

    Edwin Valero maybe unless demarco was top 10
     
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  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bobby Vanzie was as good as Hatton or Witter and looked like he may win a world title, got polaxed by Romanov before being robbed twice against Earl in fights he dominated for his British title. Vanzie went 1-1 with Witter in the amateurs, they were rivals both from Bradford, their fathers didn't like each other either

    Romanov might fall in that bracket too, thought he beat Earl too after being inactive, he was world class then disapeared
     
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  4. dyna

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    Julio Cesar Chavez

    :D
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Spencer Oliver was pretty good.

    A current one is Darren barker.

    Chisora was robbed v helenius but he has respect as a top fighter.

    Can't remember if Guinn ever beat anyone but he ranked pretty high.
     
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  6. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    :nono
     
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  7. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know dyna is joking but it always struck me that Chavez is the avatar for 'great guy who beat a bunch of bums'. His contemporary, Pernell Whitaker, did not beat any more top guys than Chavez and fought several bums himself but no one ever looks at Whitaker and says "He fought a 3-6 guy in the middle of his title reign, he only beat bums.'
     
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Oba Carr?

    edit: Yori Boy was top ten when Carr beat him.
     
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  9. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    just of the top of my head i want to say hugh russell
     
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  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That was what got Greg Haugen in so much trouble, alleging that.
     
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  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair he corrected himself post fight... "They were 'tough' Mexican taxi drivers!"
     
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  12. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both had their last fight under the age 30, with less than 40 fights.
     
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  13. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    sorry...i didnt read the last part ...40 fights bit
     
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  14. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    Willie 'The Cannon' Shannon

    Walter 'E Junior' Moore

    Roy 'Tiger' Williams

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    Eddie 'The Animal' Lopez
     
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  15. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does Shane Knox qualify.

    He had world class skills and was undefeated, but seemed to have simply lost interest and retired early, before he had beaten a top 10 opponent.
     
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