Who was the best of the super featherweight four of the early 80's?

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  1. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    Bobby Chacon, Rafael Limon, Cornelious Boza Edwards, and Rolando Navarrete were all 130 lb champs in the early eighties, who all had crowd pleasing styles and, except for Chacon/Navarrete, all fought each other with mixed results. All four also lost to Alexis Arguello. This question of who the best was is difficult because none of them really showed that they were the best of the lot, winning against one guy and then losing to another. With this said, who do you think is the best?
     
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    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    i think Bobby Chacon was the best and he also has the best resume of those four exciting fighters.
     
  4. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey he was losing to a 4-11 Tijuana Tax driver iin the early 80s. Sorry Greg; a tough Tijuana Taxi driver;)
     
  6. Pat_Lowe

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    :lol: Nice one, I've always wondered about that fight. On boxrec it says it was listed as a loss then changed but it sounds pretty dodgy. I know in a couple of his fights on TV they listed his record as having 1 loss. I'm sure they did in the Lockridge fight.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    I really like Boza Edwards myself. He definitely got ripped in one of those Chacon losses, can't remember what number fight it was. Boza had some excellent skill but near always ended up brawling.
     
  8. birddog

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  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had a lot of time for Chavez, he was a brilliant fighter but The Ring record book listed it as a loss for years, until Tyson was in prison and King needed a new superstar and decided that Chavez and his journey to 100-0 was what he would use.
     
  10. Pat_Lowe

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    So they just covered it up? Understandable though, that 88-0 record was a big claim for greatness and glory. Its just not the same if its 87-1.
     
  11. TBooze

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    Well as Don King would say, only in America!;)

    No I joke, King needed the help of showtime (SET) and the WBC to spin this; and us fans kind of kept quiet as well. Anyone with a 80s Ring Record book had the evidence in black and white, but as you suggest 87-1 maybe mighty pretty, but 88-0 was simply breath taking.
     
  12. Pat_Lowe

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    To quote boxrec ""For many years all the leading record books, including both Pugilato and The Ring Record Book, recorded the first loss of Julio Cesar Chavez as being by disqualification....
    This has since been changed to a knockout victory for Chavez, based on confirmation from the local boxing commission in Culiacan that it altered the verdict the following day.
    Ramon Felix, manager of Chavez, happened to be a member of the Culiacan commission at the time"

    In other words Don King paid off the commission to say they altered it the following day
     
  13. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    Don King was with Chavez in 81?
     
  14. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    No, but as previously was said, Chavez's record for many years was listed as having a loss. If TBooze and others are correct in what they say, it stopped being listed around the time he signed with Don King.
     
  15. TBooze

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    Yes; and there is also the fact that a Commissioner over turned a referee's decision.

    Boxing for better or for worse goes by the ring officals decisions*. We may not like a Whitaker/RamirezI decision, but it still goes down as a win for Ramirez.

    If you ever saw the Wolgast/Rivers double knockdown and blatant cheating of referee Jack Welch it is outrageous, but it still goes down as a Wolgast knockdown win.

    I do not know for sure Chavez low blowed Ruiz, but I do know that ref threw him out and awarded Ruiz the win. Whether we like it or not that means Chavez lost.

    Now a silly dq lost early in his career meant nothing at all, and indeed Chavez rebounded fairly strongly.;) But it did matter when Chavez became DKP's premier fighter and King was spinning a journey to a hundred and 0.

    *excluding drug abuses and proven fixes, which can give the commisioners power to hand out a no contest.