Who was the better finisher of Louis and Tyson?

No, of course he was. Just saying that Louis didn't throw the barrage of punches Tyson usually did. Louis had a devastating one-punch capability. Hard to name one better.

 

For me its Louis, but Tyson was one of the best finishers also, p4p some of the best finiishers for me were Louis, Trinidad, Dempsey, and one that doesnt get mentioned nuch in this respect but for me was one of the clear best was Robinson.

This is purely FINISHING that in debating.

 

Louis was the better finisher in that he determined the moment of his oponents dimise more precisely.

Tyson went after his oponent untill he finished them while Louis constructed their demise when he chose making him more of a pure finsher.

 

Quality post

 

Nice post. I went around the world in an effort to say this in my post, and I don't think I got the point out.

Tell me sensei, will I be able to post like this when I reach 12,000 posts?

 

Tyson carried his power just as well as Louis but the biggest difference was that Louis fought a more calculated fight and was far more patient than Mike. Make no mistake when Louis went for the kill he usually got his man.

Tyson on the other hand was far more aggressive, he never waited for openings he simply created them. His combination of speed, power and precision were second to none. Tyson's finishing ablities are well documented. I think one of his finest finishes was against Pinklon Thomas which I should add is nothing short of brilliant.

 

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Mike Tyson was a great finisher. I also think he gets overlooked when some people debate what fighters are the most athletic of all time.

Joe Louis had around 16 stoppages after round 5. Mike Tyson had 6. I had stated that Louis carried his power longer. What I should have said was Louis stayed focused on finishing longer. Whenever Mike was faced with a tough challenge, like Douglas, Holyfield, or Lewis; he sometimes looks like he begins just going through the motions. Tyson was not quitting the fight, but he would stop trying to out think his opponent. Tyson would also do something similar in some fights where it appeared as though his opponent had stopped trying to win, but just didn't want to go down. Mike would just keep doing enough to keep winning, but he was no longer going in for the kill. I think Louis was most always looking for a way to go in for the kill.

 

Both absolute mops at cleaning up. Looking at their respective records:

Mike Tyson - Wins 50(44) Losses 6(5)
79% of overall fights won by KO and 63% of overall fights won inside 4 rounds.

Joe Louis - Wins 69(55) Losses 3(2)
76% of overall fights won by KO and 47% of overall fights won inside 4 rounds.

From the numbers Tyson finished 'em earlier. But history also shows that once Louis had 'em on the go he finished 'em very efficiently.

 

Be careful here...you're dragging other attributes into this thread that don't belong. (You're not the only one.)

This is about their ability as finishers.
I can't really pick a winner. Once they had you hurt, both men were extremely proficient in ending the fight.
I may give an ever-so-slight edge to Louis, but there really is nothing in it.

 

Both were great finishers, and it is a testament to Mike Tyson that he should be mentioned in the same breath as a man who for many years was the undisputed "perfect fighting machine", whose pure killer instinct was universally regarded as the greatest of them all.

I understand Janitor means Louis made his opponents fall into the trap of their own demise by leading them in with his retreat shuffle and then destroying them with that left hook and straight right. Great stuff. Truly the work of a man who possessed the quality of cold-blooded, predatory instinct.

Tyson, on the other hand, seized immediate control with demon speed of upper body and hand to anticipate openings a mile away and get in his unorthodox-angle powershots with both hands and savagely bludgeon the hardest of men. He was just as bloodthirsty as Louis in driving into his hapless foes with "bad" intentions.

Who was better? A bit nitpicky, perhaps. To me a great finisher is a guy who succeeds in getting his man out of there once he has him hurt. For my money, I'll go with the overwhelming cyclone that was Tyson, who was more heavy-handed and destroyed the bigger opponents, with those blazing combos that usually ended with the perfect kayo shot you didn't see. What he did to the determined Pinklon Thomas in Round 6 is truly a clean, crushing, savage knockout for the ages.

 

Bingo. :good

 

Liston would be above Dempsey in the finishing stakes IMO.

 

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