Who was the better welterweight: Tito or Floyd

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by GK BOX, Mar 8, 2016.


  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    You don't have to take damage to deterioate as a fighter.

    The fact that this even has to be explained to you shows your level of knowledge.

    Even Freddie Roach said, (after the Cotto fight) Mayweathers legs are gone.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,591
    255
    Feb 5, 2005
    But you're really talking about whether or not a past prime Mayweather can beat a really past prime SMM and ODH. We already know the result of that. But I think in their primes, these two fighters reached higher levels than did Floyd. Floyd was consistently great/good, SMM and ODH at their absolute peaks I think were slightly better. Tito I'm not so sure about. And JMM and Cotto don't deserve to even be in the discussion at 147.
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

    18,440
    9,578
    Jan 30, 2014
    How so?
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,591
    255
    Feb 5, 2005
    Ability wise I just think they were better, but Floyd certainly had a better career than either of them. Floyd had a better defense than both, but I also think he has a worse offense, and less power than either of them, and SMM was at least as fast as Floyd was and had a great chin. ODH had a reach advantage and a better jab. Certainly given the fights they had, it can be argued that in their primes they potentially could have beaten Floyd. ODH didn't lose by all that much when he did fight Floyd and SMM certainly had him hurt. Not trying to take anything away from Floyd after all he did win, and I don't have a lot of patience for those who use wins to justify fantasy losses, but in this case, this is just my opinion.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,640
    18,440
    Jun 25, 2014
    I much preferred watching Trinidad fight. I found Mayweather to be incredibly boring most of the time.

    That said, I think a Mayweather-Trinidad fight would've looked similar to Mayweather-Corrales.

    Trinidad's only chance to win would be by KO. And since nobody ever stopped Mayweather, I don't see it happening. Trinidad was also dropped quite a few times at welter - by guys like Anthony Stephens, Yori Boy, Oba Carr - not exactly the best welters who ever lived. And, like a few others have mentioned, I thought Oscar won a clear decision over Trinidad when they fought.

    On the other hand, I think Mayweather would view Trinidad as a big threat, so he'd take the fight very seriously. I just see him beating Felix in a pretty one-sided manner and probably stopping Felix late after dropping Trinidad a couple times during the fight.

    Mayweather by TKO.
     
  6. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,513
    2,786
    Apr 15, 2012
    i don't think so. maidana caught floyd with some shots.. imagine tito landing a left hook on floyd
     
  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

    13,317
    11,711
    Mar 19, 2012
    Floyd could outbox Tito. It`s a good possibility. At the same time he would be in with the most dangerous fighter he`s faced certainly at 147. Trinidad was tall, rangy pretty quick as a Welterweight. Tito was one of the few boxers who could hurt you with any punch in his ****nal.
     
  8. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    4,382
    1,045
    Nov 30, 2014
    Listen, Floyd took vacations and preserved his body not only through said vacations but due to his style.

    Now you tell me how he will deteriorate similarly compared to another 38 year old who is active and doesn't rely on defence?
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    112,986
    48,067
    Mar 21, 2007
    I don't think anyone is telling you that.

    Just that he looks less good than he did a few years before. I agree that he was having issues with his legs.

    Hey ho.
     
  10. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    4,382
    1,045
    Nov 30, 2014
    Floyd has stopped Ricky Hatton and Victor Ortiz in NINE YEARS.

    He isn't stopping Tito.
     
  11. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    4,382
    1,045
    Nov 30, 2014
    Jesus, that will happen in one of Floyd's fights and in his next fight people will be calling it his performance a masterclass.

    His legs aren't as gone as you lot think. He's not exactly struggling to move around.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    112,986
    48,067
    Mar 21, 2007
    I never said his legs were gone, and you don't know how gone I think they are so what you're basing this on is beyond me. :good
     
  13. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,448
    1,824
    Sep 9, 2011
    floyd should beat tito, but tito does better against the field than him.
     
  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    25,430
    9,415
    Jul 15, 2008
    :good