Who was the biggest fighter of these three?

He spent the majority of his heavyweight career fluctuating between 230 and 260 though. Very big heavyweight, apparently.

 

Ali knocked out good fighters 225 lbs, 2 pounds lighter than Lewis was when he KO'd Ruddock. I'd still say that Lewis was a significantly bigger man.

 

That would explain a lot, yes. But if it is steroid induced muscle mass that he has lost, I'd still expect a more visible decline in power. Strange case either way.

 

I'm patiently waiting for the thread telling me Hopkins and Duran was the same size.

 

A few pounds? This is simply not true.

Most people agree these were his best performances in his prime and these were his weights:

Conn: 199
Scheming 2: 198
Braddock: 197
Max Baer: 198
Camera: 196
Buddy Baer: 206
Walcott 2: 213

Average in his best fights 201 lbs

Against charles and marciano he was 213 and 218 for an average of 215 lbs. The fact he lost both these fights in a 1 sided fashion tells you something: being far above 201 isnt his optimal weight. Especially if you consider that before the layoff when he was at his career highest against buddy baer and walcott he was fairly easy to hit, lacked defense and head movement, and got dropped multiple times in both those fights and barely pulled off a comeback ko. This indicates that as an athlete and a boxer Louis frame was that of a cruiserweight and that is where he was at his best. Could he have bulked up in today's era to be an optimal and explosive 215-220 range? Possibly, but that isnt the discussion.

Very basic math.

Tysons average in his best prime fights:

Spinx: 218
Tubbs: 216
Holmes: 215
Berbick 221
Tucker: 221
Bruno: 218
Smith: 219

Average: 218

Wilder:

Stiverne 1: 219
Molina: 229
Washington: 222
Areola: 226
Szpilka: 228
Stiverne 2: 220
Ortiz: 214

Average: 222 lbs

Even if we include Reznick's 209 fury fight weight and ignore boxrec's 214, wilder's average STILL ends up being 220.

Wilder is obviously a larger man than Tyson and especially Joe Louis (they're practically a full weight class apart) no matter how you look at it. And i must repeat: wilder overtrained for the fury fight and it was one of his worsr performances so including it on this list is very disingenuous.

 

Dog bone,bone dog . lol

 

He just cant quite let it go ,he's like a moth to a flame ,rather sad really.

 

Louis himself stated his best performance was against Max Baer.

 

No Rez.

 

Louis dried out to get under 200lbs for Conn,and he said he felt like **** when he climbed through the ropes.

 

Tale Of The Tape
Louis

Chest 41" ex 43"
Forearm12.50"
Bicep13"
Thigh20"
Calf 15"
Neck16.25"

Tyson
Chest 43" ex 45"
Forearm14"
Bicep16"
Thigh27"
Calf18"
Neck19.75"
Even allowing for slight discrepancies its clear Tyson is much the bigger man.

 

Louis
Height 6'1.5"
Reach 76"


Tyson
Height 5'10.5" / 5". 11'5" split the difference, call it 5'11"
Reach 71"

 

1-i assure you, I'm not trying to overcomplicate thing and I'm certainly not trying to low ball Louis' average weight.

2-if the fights I listed aren't a good selection, which ones do u think are his best performances? Logically, a fighter will be at his best weight and conditioning for their biggest fights. My numbers consistently show louis was at his best in the 201 range, NOT above 210. I'm willing to include other fights if you'd like.

3-wilder looked horrible against fury. He missed several wide punches and was gasping for air in just 6 rounds. Just because fury is his best opponent doesn't mean it was his best performance. Also, he got a DRAW and most people had him trailing on the scorecards outside the knockdown so how is that his best performance?

 

There are 3 categories when judging size:

-bulk
-weight
-height/reach

Tyson is clearly bigger in bulk and was heavier on average so that's 2/3.

This just proves you cant only look at height or any 1 category to get the full picture.

We know wilder is bigger than both by those same standards.