Who was the greater middleweight Golovkin or Hopkins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by iceferg, Apr 9, 2022.


Higher ATG middleweight

  1. Golovkin

    74 vote(s)
    52.9%

  2. Hopkins

    60 vote(s)
    42.9%

  3. About the same

    6 vote(s)
    4.3%
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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Read the title I said middleweight. For me Golovkin is now at a point where I would say he is surpassing Hopkins middleweight achievements.

    I'm not saying p4p because some of Hopkins best achievements came at light heavyweight and certainly his best wins/results but at middleweight for Golovkin to have now become unified champion again puts him a little bit above Hopkins for me.
     
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  2. EnglishButFrench

    EnglishButFrench New Member Full Member

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    Hopkins.
     
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  3. AdamT

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    Hopkins
     
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  4. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopk…… well **** nevermind……
     
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  5. highlander

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    marvelous marvin hagler!
     
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  6. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Hopkins.

    But it s by no big margin.
     
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  7. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One guy was the first to unified all 4 belts and legitimized the WBO title, beat some of the best fighters in history and also moved up and dominated further showing how overall great of a fighter he is.

    the other biggest achievement is losing to the only elite opponent he ever faced, a fake defense record of an JV title, and knocking out a long string of bums while never taking any type of risk ever.
    Seems kinda simple.
     
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  8. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is made up nonsense. Belt was around since 89 and held by many greats before Hopkins.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Wow. Thread really surprised me.

    I thought it was consensus Hopkins was a top 5 MW.
     
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  10. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why? Hopkins biggest wins are against Oscar and Tito. Guys who started at lower weights. He also fought the same two guys 5 times. What 2 guys would be acceptable for Golovkin to fight 5 times and which 2 former lower weight champions would be acceptable for Golovkin to beat? As it is he gets flak for fighting Brook.
     
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  11. drenlou

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    Hopkins.
     
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  12. The G-Man

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    Oscar and Tito as it was were far greater wins than anything Golovkin has done.
     
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  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Same Oscar who got beaten up and needed a robbery vs Felix Sturm.
     
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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Possibly due to circumstance but I would rate Hopkins higher due to some of his wins

    K Holmes
    W Joppy
    H Eastman
    G Johnson

    There are several others I could include

    There are several wins Hopkins has that I think could be argued as greater than some of Golovkins wins

    No doubt Golovkin has beaten some good MWs like Jacobs, Geale,

    I think had Golovkin had have got some other fights like undefeated Quillim, S Martinez, Pirog, Sturm, Pavlik for example, he would be rated higher but for whatever reasons they didn't happen

    S Martinez had less title fights but did get some big wins with Pavlik, Williams, undefeated Murray, undefeated Barker, undefeated Chavez, undefeated Dzinziruk
     
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  15. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Hardly beaten up but yeah I thought he lost.

    Same Oscar who then went to be competitve with Hopkins 3 months later.
     
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