Who was the greater middleweight Golovkin or Hopkins?

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Higher ATG middleweight

  1. Golovkin

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  2. Hopkins

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  3. About the same

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    4.3%
  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I said name truly great fighters they beat. Hopkins who I don’t particularly like either as a man or fighter has the better resume. He beat the likes of Oscar De La Hoya, my number one Felix “El Tito” Trinidad the pride of Puerto Rico, Holmes, Joppy, Winky Wright, Eastman and numerous others. Sorry the resumes don’t compare. Now I know the die hard fans of Lil G or lower case g want to anoint him with divine status but sorry it does not quite work like that.
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I understand. DLH are Tito are big name HOF fighters, but they were not true MW's.
     
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  3. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Hopkins however I’d back GGG to beat him
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Winky wasnt at MW though and this thread is about MW
    I also think Hopkins has the greater resume
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whilst I agree with this
    Trinidad and De La Hoya were smaller fighters coming up in weight when Hopkins beat them, but Hopkins did beat Trinidad before he retired and at that time (before 2 year out of the ring) Trinidad only had 3 MW fights but other than losing to Hopkins beat Joppy before who was a MW champ who was 9-1 in MW title fights and Cherifi, who was a former MW champ.
    In effect Trinidad did beat 2 decent world class MWs sandwiched between the Hopkins loss

    Oscar had beaten Sturm (close debatable fight) who was an undefeated MW champ and who won WBO, WBA and IBF MW titles as well as becoming a SMW champion in his career.

    I dont think the De La Hoya win is as good a MW win as some of Hopkins other MW wins
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do you think the more defences were against better MW fighters overall?

    List the 10 best MW wins for both
    IMO and in no order

    Hopkins -

    K Holmes
    G Johnson
    W joppy
    F Trinidad
    A Echols
    H Eastman
    J Lipsey
    O De La Hoya
    A Echols 2
    S Vanderpool


    Golovkin -

    D Jacobs
    D Lemieux
    S Derevyanchenko
    D Geale
    M Murray
    G Proksa
    M Macklin
    W Monroe
    K Brook
    R Murata


    I'm sure some will feel others should be mentioned instead but gives an Idea
     
  7. kdyehs

    kdyehs Active Member Full Member

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    No one in the history beats Roy Jones Jr at middleweight.
     
  8. factzonlybxng

    factzonlybxng New Member banned Full Member

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    Like at all. Trinidad is a 154 and Oscar a 147. Also Oscar in a lot of peoples eyes is 0-2 at MW.
    Winky Wright was washed up and also a 154 fighter. Why do you just go off name value instead of looking at the fighters
     
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  9. African Cobra

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    Tito knocked out quality middleweights like Joppy in fact he annihilated him so that argument does not work . Tito was the best fighter in the world my hero and hate to say it but Hopkins scientifically destroyed him that night and Old Bouie Fisher from the Mid West and Brother Rahman outdid the great trainer Papa Don Felix Trinidad that night. Let’s call a spade a spade.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Winky moved up in weight. When you move to Middleweight you are a Middleweight. It’s like saying John the Beast Mugabi or Canelo are not Middleweights because of all their fights at 154 pounds.
     
  11. African Cobra

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    The guys I mention are truly great fighters generational type of fighters.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's all good Olu. Tito was a good 160, but a great 154 and 147 IMO.
     
  13. factzonlybxng

    factzonlybxng New Member banned Full Member

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    You're just going off name value, seriously pathetic.
     
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  14. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So generationally good he needed a robbery over Felix Sturm.
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    the fight
    The fight with Winky wasn't at MW
    That fight was held within the LHW limit
    This thread is about MW only
     
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