Who was the greatest and WHY: Oscar v Tito

NOV 1992: De La Hoya turns pro

MAR 1994: Wins 1st world title 18 months later at age of 21 with a 11-0 record, WBO super-feather, stopping Jimmy Bredahl (16-0)

JUL 1994: Wins 2nd world title, WBO lightweight title, 4 months later by KOing Jorge Paez (53-6-4) in 2 rounds

1995: Stops Rafael Ruelas (43-1) in a unification fight, then stops Genaro Hernandez (32-0-1). Ends the 3rd year of his career at #4 The Ring p4p, behind Whitaker, Jones Jr and Ricardo Lopez, and ahead of Trinidad, Tszyu and Barrera

Wins The Ring Fighter Of The Year for 1995

JUN 1996: Stops Julio Cesar Chavez (96-1-1) to win world title at a THIRD weight division in his 4th year as a pro. Record is only 21-0 and he is just 23

APR 1997: Beat Pernell Whitaker (40-1-1) to win a world title at a FOURTH weight division. He is now p4p #2 behind Roy Jones Jr, and the 1st man ever to legitimately defeat Whitaker (his only other loss a ridiculous robbery decision to Jose Luis Ramirez in 1988 which was subsequently avenged)- the decision over Whitaker was very very close, but it was right IMO

SEP 1997: His last fight before his 5 year anniversary in November, a landslide points win over Hector Camacho (63-3-1).

His record is now 25-0(20), and he has won FIVE world titles at THREE weights (WBO super-feather, WBO & IBF light, WBC light-welter, WBC welter)

He is now The Ring's no1 pound-for-pound fighter on the planet- ahead of a peak Roy Jones Jr at #2, Holyfield #3 and Trinidad #4.



Has any fighter in history ever had a better first 5 years than this????

 

Rather than hurl about a biased article from some bogus website as if it was the Bible itself, why don't you look into the facts yourself?

De La Hoya COULD NOT fight Azumah Nelson at the time he won the title by fighting Bredahl, as Nelson had signed to fight Leija in May already, and DLH was challenging Bredahl in March. Plus, to be honest, it is a bit unfair to expect a 21 year old with ELEVEN pro fights to take on ATG Nelson- is it not? Or are you too biased to admit even that?? Of course you are.

DLH unified lightweight world titles then moved up. The reason he didn't fight Orzubek Nazarov was that Nazarov didn't have the profile or money to justify a fight, the guy was largely unknown and fought almost exclusively in Japan and Africa at the time.

The great Giovanni Parisi lost to the 'shot' JC Chavez in 95 and De La Hoya beat the same Chavez in '96- WHY would DLH then have chased a fight with this guy??

For a Floyd Mayweather fan, I dunno why you are bringing up Kostya Tszyu! De La Hoya was at light-welterweight for ONE YEAR and fought Chavez (96-1-1) clearly a huge name and a big-money fight, and Miguel Angel Gonzalez (41-0). Not bad going IMO.
If you knew anything about boxing you would know Tszyu had achieved very little by 1996 and was not a big name at all (actually look at his record for evidence of this) and then he LOST to Vince Phillips in 1997.
Coggi was not as good as Chavez (96-1-1) or Gonzalez (41-0), and De La Hoya didn't have the time nor was there any point in staying at this weight to beat every decent guy there was. He had bigger fish to fry. Coggi you really are reaching with that one, almost as bad as Parisi.

VERNON FORREST - again, why are you bringing him up when Trinidad never fought him either?? Bad move :-(

Jose Luis Lopez. Yes, he was a big draw back then. Top 350 p4p as I recall. Definitely better opposition than PERNELL ****ING WHITAKER POUNDFORPOUND NO#1 was, or Camacho, or Ike Quartey, or Shane Mosley...

Now we get into more interesting territory with you Dave...

You're criticizing De La Hoya for not fighting Parisi and Coggi...

SHANE MOSLEY

IKE QUARTEY

Two of the best around in those times- Where was Tito???? I DEMAND AN ANSWER DAVE! Don't you pretend you're offline now. Parisi and Coggi, or Mosley and Quartey?

And at 154, you bring up Garcia, Simon and Santos. Again, did Trinidad fight any of them?? No, because they weren't big enough draws for either Tito or Oscar. You have to be realistic. A career that would have encompassed everyone you brought up in that laughably ludicrous article would have squeezed about 70 fights into about 8 years, and would have involved fighting alphabet champions in county halls for small purses- something neither Tito or Oscar had to bother with as they were successful. De La Hoya only had a few fights at 154, and beat good quality guys in Vargas, Mayorga, Campas (80-5) and Castillejo (51-4)- whose records **** all over the guys you mentioned anyway.


I honestly can't remember smoking someone so thoroughly in quite a while. I'm going to enjoy this one- :smoke


Tip for the future Dave: form your own views and don't use biased internet articles.

 

More errors with your pathetic internet article:

Rafael Ruelas was IBF lightweight champion when he fought Oscar, it was a unification fight.

Here is the top 10 lightweights as selected by THE RING in 1994 (if you want the page link to verify this I'll put it on):

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So De La Hoya only fought the top two guys in the top 10, he missed out the number 3 who hardly anyone had ever heard of and fought in Japan and Africa.

Yet again: :smoke

 

Pacfan on fire!!!! :fire :fire :fire :fire

I have to say though Pac, despite the impressive ass-pounding you've just given dum-dum Dave, I disagree, I think Trinidad was the greater fighter. Not for any of the reasons in Dave's post, which was a lot of prized horse**** (criticizing De La Hoya for not fighting little-known alphabet champions who weren't as good as the guys he did fight, or criticizing him for not fighting guys that Trinidad didn't fight either?? :-( :-( :-( :-( Dreadful post).

IMO, Trinidad beat guys better than DLH, Whitaker being the prime example, and his performance against Joppy was one that DLH couldn't match against Sturm. True, Tito deserved to lose the DLH fight, but Oscar didn't look good in winning either, it was a terrible fight.