Who was the greatest fighter from each of the 50 states?

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  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Will Jess Willard get Kansas???
    I cant think of other fighter?? Sure he may not be a legend, but he is pretty well known in Kansas.
     
  2. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe Louis: Detroit, Michigan.
     
  3. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    North Dakota: Charley Retzlaff. Born in Leonard, North Dakota on October 28, 1904. Heavyweight. 6'2." 200 Pounds.

    Comeback Charley boxed from 1928 to 1940.

    W 63 (KO 54) + L 8 + D 4.


    Wyoming: Cowboy Eddie Anderson. Born in Cody, Wyoming on October 10, 1904. Lightweight. 5'5".

    Cowboy Eddie boxed from 1920 to 1936.

    W 127 (KO 25) + L 84 (KO 9) + D 38.

    In this thread, at least one male professional boxer born in each of the 50 states has now been identified.

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  4. Anubis

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    As for California, Jim Corbett is so crucial to the evolution of boxing that I thought he should be named to the list. Ditto for the Galveston Giant where Texas is involved.

    Benny Leonard was an obvious choice for New York, although I briefly contemplated Bronx native Wilfredo Benitez.

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    Al Tribuani
    2. Pennsylvania- Harry Greb
    3. New Jersey- Marvin Hagler
    4. Georgia- Sugar Ray Robinson
    5. Connecticut- Willie Pep
    6. Massachusetts- Rocky Marciano
    7. Maryland- Joe Gans
    8. South Carolina- Joe Frazier
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    10. Virginia- Pernell Whitaker
    11. New York- Benny Leonard
    12. North Carolina- Ray Charles Leonard
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    15. Kentucky- Muhammad Ali
    16. Tennessee- Tommy Hearns
    17. Ohio- Jim Jeffries
    18. Louisiana- Tony Canzoneri
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    20. Mississippi- Archie Moore
    21. Illinois- Packey McFarland
    22. Alabama- Joe Louis
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    Joey Gamache
    24. Missouri- Henry Armstrong
    25. Arkansas- Sonny Liston
    26. Michigan- Stan Ketchel
    27. Florida- Roy Jones, Jr
    28. Texas- Jack Johnson
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    Jim Corbett
    32. Minnesota- Mike Gibbons
    33. Oregon- Denny Moyer
    34. Kansas- Jess Willard
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    37. Nebraska- Max Baer
    38. Colorado Jack Dempsey
    39. North Dakota- Charley Retzlaff
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    Shawn Hawk
    41. Montana- Marvin Camel
    42. Washington- Freddie Steele
    43. Idaho- Kenny Keene
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    46. Oklahoma- James Tillis
    47. New Mexico- Bob Foster
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    50. Hawaii- BoBo Olson

    51. Washington, D.C.- Winky Wright

    52. Puerto Rico- Carlos Ortiz
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow, like a Phoenix Rising from the Ashes, I see that this one has been resurrected.

    I will take a closer look later today, and perhaps we can discern who was best in cases that involve close calls.

    Good stuff, everyone!

    :cheers
     
  6. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Scott LeDouix from Minnesota was a pretty decent fighter.
     
  7. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Harry Matthews was actually the best fighter born in Idaho.
     
  8. A Rock

    A Rock SAMUEL ETO'O!!!!! Full Member

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    Jersey-hagler Pride!!!!!!
     
  9. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just a thought, But how much of a difference would it be for fighters representing which State's they fought out of, Irregardless of where they were born? Louis-Detroit, Robinson-Harlem,N.Y., Charles-Ohio, Ect...
     
  10. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Making synonymy a criteria could result in endless debate. Robinson could be claimed by Detroit as well as Harlem. Place of birth is strictly objective however.

    I understand the argument that where one actually developed as a fighter is more relevant, but this can still be subjective. Dempsey might be designated for NYC (including Harlem), Salt Lake City, and Hollywood, where he lived during the latter portion of his reign as champion.

    For some of the more difficult states to name a candidate for, going by place of birth might also be more feasible than finding somebody who fought out of a particular location. Everybody's more than eager to name fighters from states with a bountiful boxing legacy, but sometimes disappear into the woodwork when the challenge comes to offer nominations for the last few states to have a representative identified for them.
     
  11. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    No objection here. Kenny Keene got Idaho on the board, but I do agree that Kid Matthews was more accomplished. Good call!:good
     
  12. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes your right. It is a big enough task to complete the list as it is.
     
  13. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Scanning the filled list now, I think a strong case can be made for Mickey Walker also. Hagler may or may not have been able to trash top heavyweights, but Walker did get the best of Bearcat Wright, Paulino Uzcudun, Jack Sharkey King Levinski and Arthur DeKuh. He was no slouch when it came to dealing with first rate lightheavyweights either.
     
  14. jackdempsey

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    Minnesota had a list of great fighters that were world class.

    Mike Gibbons
    Tommy gibbons
    Mike O'dowd
    Jock malone
    Glen Flanagan
    Del Flanagan
    Billy Miske
    Jackie Graves
    Jimmy Delaney
    Johny Kewpie Ertle