Who was the last fighter Pacquaio fought that had any kind of movement in the ring?

Anyone smell anything?

 

Now that its clear as day fact that Floyd a ****in ***** im wondering if a line can be drawn under the whole subject and look foreward to more fights from Manny and just a bit of silence from Floyd. It would be epecially nice to maybe see a few less lame desperate attempts to ridicule Pacman by some crazy Floyd fans.

Not that i expect that to happen. Much more PEDs and Poochio nonsense to come i think.

 

Oh man what a disgusting thread :|

Ok where do i start !!! , ill start by saying that Pacquiao's own movement is what makes fighters with inferior footwork , ring craft and general athletesism look a bit flat footed and clumsey !!! , Pacquiao himself is a mover , Cotto has excellent footwork and ring craft as does Marquez .....

The reason Pacquiao latest line of opponents have looked so static and vulnerable is because Pacquiao makes them look that way by applying his superior speed and movement , granted Clottey , DLH and Hatton are not exactly twinkle toed and on the contrary they are flat footed fighters (maybe unfair to place Hatton in that category) but certainly Marquez and Cotto would rank among some of the best and most skilled fighters in the world in terms of application of footwork :deal

On the Khan point , where in the **** have you got it from that Khan is giving Pacquiao fits in sparring , and Tim Bradley's movement

**** if Pacquiao wanted to dance around Bradley and just jab him to death to a UD he could do it with his eyes closed :deal

 

The only real knock against pac is that he has never faced anyone remotely close to him in the hand speed department. But like I always say "speed doesn't like fighting speed".

 

Barrera tried movement in the rematch, but he never tried to seriously catch Pacquiao with any serious counters......MAB was a beaten fighter before he even stepped into the ring with Pacquiao. His mindset was to survive and finish the fight on his feet.

As for Cotto, he did great against Pacquiao for nearly two rounds, using the jab and moving to the laterals.
The mistake for Cotto was the fact that he was having it too easy hitting Pacquiao, that he went in too trade looking for the kill......Cotto then began a tradewar with Pacquiao and was getting beat to the punch......

Cotto later reverted back to lateral movement, but it was too late. Pacquiao had already worked up a monumental head of steam and Cotto in his weakened state was'nt going to stop it.

......but if you look at the late rounds of the Cotto fight.....its evident that Pacquiao is a frustrated fighter in his chase of Cotto.

If you look at Pacquiao's fights with Marquez. Marquez was constantly moving laterally to his left, away from Pac's straight left.

You cant get yourself in a trading war with Pacquiao because he has too much speed and too much energy.

However, the Margarito fight is going to be very interesting because in Margarito, you have a fighter who's bread and butter is to do exactly that...."trade"

For the first time in Pacquiao's career we're going to actually see him against a bigger fighter who's strenghth is to trade through volume. Who is'nt afraid to get hit......and who by history has a tremendous amount of stamina.

To me at least its going to be very interesting to see if Pacquiao has the boxing skillset along with the ring patience to box and not trade with a fighter who may actually get the better of him in brutal type exchanges on the inside.

 

Movement or not! Pac makes you fight! Even in the the JMM 2 fight JMM was trying to lay in the cut and counter eventually your going to have to trade with the lil guy.

 

atsch

tell that to mosley and judah

 

atschatsch:rofl:rofl

I worry about you moreso than any ***** on this site. *****s do what they do out of defense for their favorite fighter. You on the other hand genuinely hate Pacquaio with a passion that you only see what you want to see in everyone of his fights. I suppose you felt that Hatton was controlling round 2 before the knockout punch as well huh?

 

good footwork and good counter puncher. marquez was only a good counter puncher, and just ok on footwork. the rest were just standing there and didnt get out of the way.

 

Go to youtube and look at that 3rd round.......Marquez is having it to easy hitting Pacquiao at will.
Marquez then makes the same mistake that Cotto made and wants to advance and throw his shots with more mustard........the problem is that it was too early in the fight to do that against a still very fresh Pacquiao.

Marquez traded with Pacquiao and got hit by a flush left hand that Pacquiao's speed allowed him to land first.

Sure there are situations where you have to plant your feet and stand your ground, but you have to save those for situations where Pacquiao is coming at you with extreme bursts of energy.......to that, Marquez always took the half step back and lateraled just slightly to plant and throw a stinging countershot.

Most fighters even with a nice skillset dont have the patience and dicipline to execute that counterpunching type of a gameplan.

What a skilled fighter like Marquez must avoid however is the situation like the 3rd round where you have the urge to advange foward and take the fight to Pacquiao.

When you're hitting a fighter as easy as Marquez was hitting Pacquiao, that urge to advance and take it to Pacquiao is something that is extremely difficult to refrain against.
Marquez was smart enough to check his ego at the door and revert back to the plan that was drawed up from the opening bell.

 

Marquez is not a speeding demon on footwork.....but I disagree with you, Marquez is much better than just OK on footwork.

The fact that Marquez's footspeed is'nt overwhelming goes to show that in fact he has exellent footwork manueverability to fend off the advances of Manny Pacquiao.

You dont have to have lightning footspeed to have great footwork.

 

Coming from as neutral observer as yourself, your post is something to make me stop and re-examine my observations.nut:nut

 

there it is.:yep

 

The Cotto fight solitified Manny's legacy in my opinion. That was a major test no matter what you want to say about Cotto he has plenty of movement and is a strong puncher and excellent boxer. Manny was able to move up in weight and take Cotto's power and use angles to place his shots. I though that Manny could have easily lost that fight when it was announced just because of the size difference.

 

This was my opinion as well at the time.

Though I expressed that Cotto erred in taking it to Pac so early, I also expressed my suprise on how easily Pac was able as good an overall fighter like Cotto and work him the way he did.
......and even though my belief was that Pac would easily get disected by Mayweather......I pledged my allegiance to the ******* nation around here after the Marquez-Mayweather fight that I would root for Pacquiao against the very distasteful Mayweather.......

......that is until the negotiations where excuse after excuse mounted on the Pac side for not wanting and trying to avoid the real PED testing being proposed by Mayweather.

The *******s from way back in this forum know that I've always respected Pacquiao's abilities, but his comportment during those first negotiations convinced me beyond any doubt that he's being aided by artificial means.
Pacquiao imo belongs alongside the names of Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens.
Those two baseball players changed the course of baseball stats and history and I have no respect for them.