Who was the more destructive 175 WBO belt holder?

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  1. Nay_Sayer

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    I'm sorry but arguing about who crushed the better string of TOMATO CANs is a waste of time. Moorer beat up on TOMATO CANs @ 175. So has Kovalev. The difference is Moorer went up to heavyweight and beat some good names there.

    Call me when the "Krusher" is done Krushing TOMATO CANs.

    He'd probably get KTFO'ed.

    Call me when Kovalev wins the LINEAR HW title.

    Until then...

    Moorer >>>>>>>> Kovalev

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  2. Koba

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    Whole thread's utterly pointless IMO. I sadly have to get by with Boxrec myself (I'm old enough, but Moorers LHW career simply wasn't the kinda stuff that made it as far as UK terrestrial TV) - Moorers 100% stoppage at LHW is obviously the more impressive, but without an understanding of his opponents, I can't really contribute.

    What I'm more bothered by is your continued and repetitive use of the term 'tomato cans' when talking about Kovalevs opponents. I get that you're trying to have a little dig at Kovalev fans, but for me it mainly signifies a disrespect for the fighters...which of Kovalevs opponents from last year do you genuinely think were just put there to make him look good (especially given that until to the Campillo fight he was a nobody with no promoter)?

    Maybe I've misunderstood though...perhaps you're just saying that Campillo, White, Cleverly and Sillakh were just rubbish rather than they were chosen to make Kovalev look good?
     
  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe you could tell us why none of the top fighters would get in the ring with Moorer at 175? Oh I forget, you know nothing about that era except what you read on boxrec. Fact is Moorer was completely avoided and for good reason. Does his comp make him one of the best ever? Hell no, just the same way as I look at your hero Vits comp. But Moorer proved his chin at heavy except against either exception punchers or an ATG holy, which you put down and said Kovalev would crack even though he has never shown he could carry that power up. Next, you question his power at 175 even though he has a 100% ko ratio and was avoided like the plague. On top of that he's shown he could still stop fighters at heavyweight...something Sergay may or may not be able to do in the future. As I said, this is a close comparison no matter who you pick as the poll shows, yet for some reason (gee, I wonder why) you choose to rally against that instead of being objective. :-(
     
  4. Nay_Sayer

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    And if I may add, Moorer would have *destroyed* Kovalev...
     
  5. box4life11

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    Haha owned his ARSE
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  6. Rock0052

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    Heavyweight accomplishments mean absolutely nothing as it relates to 175, just like Pac flattening Hatton didn't make him a more destructive flyweight.

    What do you think are Moorer's top 5 wins at 175?
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That he was only stopped by elite heavyweights has a direct correlation to his chin at 175, where he was never stopped. That his power carried up to still be able to stop heavyweights is a direct correlation to how hard he hit at 175. What do top 5 opponents have to do with anything, and why does it have to be 5 anyway? The unavoidable fact is every top light heavyweight wanted no piece of Moorer at 175.
     
  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet you will undoubtedly post in this thread again and even respond directly to me, right aquaqueen? And how about answering my questions for a change when you do?
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    None of the top LHWs were mixing it up the time. The division was ABC divided and conquered. Hill and Moorer did agree to a fight but Hearns came first. And Moorer didn't want to wait anymore, claiming he couldn't make the weight.

    Last Friday night Steward received a call from promoter [url]Bob Arum[/url], the president of Top Rank, who told him that the Hill-Moorer fight had been made. Arum told Steward that [url]HBO[/url] was close to buying the fight, and Arum hoped to hold it in March at [url]Caesars Palace[/url] in [url]Las Vegas[/url]. Hill would receive $750,000, up a half-million from his previous best purse.
    "We're only taking $500,000," says Steward, "just to get Hill in the ring. This is what the light heavyweight division needs: one super champion."

    Hill, however, is still trying to negotiate a fight with [url]Tommy Hearns[/url], a former Steward fighter who briefly held the WBC light heavyweight championship in 1987. [url]Hearns[/url], 32, reportedly demanded $8 million to meet Hill, but has since dropped that to $3 million. He will have to go lower if he wants to fight Hill.

    "It's Hill or no one." said Steward of Moorer's preferred opponent: "We are no longer interested in fighting any of the other champions. If not Hill, Mike moves up to heavyweight."
    Between fights, Moorer carries 206 pounds. Steward expects him to emerge as a solid 218-pounder, easily

    Regarding your actual topic, Kovalev is in a similar situation in that he can't secure the big fight.
     
  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet you cannot show a single post where I've discredited him, can you?
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree they're in a similar situation, and have very comparable power, that is why I made the thread. I disagree no other light heavies were fighting each other though. Without looking I remember Hill fighting many in the division, Harding and Andries having a series with one another. Cyzz, Williams, Tiozzo and others were there who also moved up to accomplish paper titles at cruiserweight. This is a comparison thread, that's it. And any objective person can see the comparisons are similar no matter which fighter you choose.
     
  12. Rock0052

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    What would you say are Moorer's top five wins at 175?
     
  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why his top 5? Why not his top 7, or his top 3? And why not address the rest of my post?
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

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    It's Moorer Jab. He ko'd everyone he fought at 175 I believe. I love Kovalev's potential, but his comp is lacking AT THE MOMENT.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

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    You had to edit that? Who in the hell has Kovalev beaten. I've seen both in their prime.

    This question was about who was more destructive. Moorer was. Moorer ko'd every man he fought at 175.