Who was the more dominant fighter, Beterbiev or Golovkin?

But, also, **** AB like. Ped using cu..n..t

 

It's pretty clear that it's Beterbiev and it isn't close. The Bumluvkin era existed, I was there to live through it, then when he went through the bum of the decade club, he loses to Canelo in a fight he was highly favored to win, gets beat up by Dervy, then refuses to do anything else with his career besides call Canelo out again despite numerous other fighters challenging him. Drops and gives up his belt to duck an ancient Lara, what else is there? I can't give someone credit who refused to ever step up, ducked plenty of challengers and was only in the boxing game for the money. Top 5 wins are Daniel Jacobs, Ryoto Murata??, David Lemiuex, uh..... Sir Gay Dervychenko and uh.... Daniel Geale? Yeah sorry, Beterbiev shits on this guy, never ducked a challenge, never gave anyone his belt while also becoming lineal/undisputed, something GGG has never done.

 

I was there to live through the Bumlovkin era too, the current crop of MWs make the members of Bumland(Jacobs, Lemieux, Geale, Andy Lee, N'dam, Macklin, Saunders, Monroe and so on) look like murderer's row LOL.

 

You're right, which makes GGG ducking all of these fighters even more absurd, the man literally gave Lara his belt, the same thing he accused Canelo of doing back in 2016. The hypocrisy is through the roof. Strange career, all things considering.

 

Ducking who exactly? The only ones he missed from that list are Andy Lee(who he was scheduled to fight but fight fell off, due to injury I think) and Saunders, who was quoted admitting turning down a fight with GGG during his reign.

Yeah, he did drop the WBA belt instead of defending it against Lara. He also dropped the IBF belt instead of defending it against Esquiva Falcao(you've probably never heard about him) too. That's what happens when fighers approach retirement and lose interest in the sport.

 

Before ducking challenges from Andre Ward and a younger Lara, he ducked the entire middleweight division once he tasted that Canelo money including both Charlo brothers, Andrade, Alimkhanuly, Lara(again), Munguia among others. He sacrificed his career in order to chase money in the Canelo fights and he didn't even win the series. He could of done so much more but gave his fans so little.

 

When i saw it live it was easy it score. Round one was GGG, and rounds 9-12 were GGG, with several other swing rounds. It was frusterating because i felt like if GGG just let his hands go more he could have made a better impression. GGG'S defense was on point as he made Canelo miss alot of shots that would have landed on other fighters and made it look easy. The commentators were horrible, focusing on GGG'S age. In round one those idiots said GGG only landed 2 jabs which is absurd, GGG won the round with the jab.

 

22 title defenses 20 by ko. He didn't sacrifice his career. He beat Canelo twice too. If Saunders and Charlo were so great and such a threat, how come they didn't do it too? Those guys can only dream of doing so well.

 

Golovkin won both the Canelo fights
Bivol won against Beterbiev

History is made of bad judging decisions, and history vindicated GGGs fights against Canelo in the same way people will vindicate the undisputed LHW fight.

Unlike Canelo vs GGG I doubt this fight will get a rematch.

This said, I'd rate both to equal levels of dominance, top elite boxers

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys been crying about this for nearly a decade now while putting your head in the sand, yet don't consider GGG losing vs some guy named Sir Gay Derychenko, the hypocrisy is through the moon.

 

I don't consider interim belts and WBA regular belts as true title defense. He's 15-2-1 in title fights and 6-2-1 against former world champions, meaning less than half of his championship wins were against boxers who never became champions in the 4 belt era. I didn't realize it was that bad tbh. Maybe in bizzaro world he beat Canelo but in planet earth he lost the series physically, mentally and emotionally. I wasn't even comparing BJS or Mall Charlo to GGG, just that he ducked them, which is factually correct.

 

Even with that reduced amount it would be 15-2-1 (13) KO'S that's pretty impressive for anybody but Golovkin it seems. Even when you try to discredit as many defenses as possible it's still impressive.

 

So you want me to give GGG extra credit compared to any other boxer for what? I don't consider the majority of Gervonta Davis's fake WBA title fights as legit as well, nor Koki Kameda's or a good portion of Kazuto Ioka's title run which consisted of defending the WBA regular Light Flyweight belt for 2 years while Roman Gonzalez was the real champion. It is what it is, 15-2 is still pretty good but when you look at the actual people he defended against, you start to get a clearer picture. 6-2 against former champions, .


That being said, I was still a fan of GGG all things considering. I just think he severely under achieved, he wasted his prime fighting mediocre competition for decades under K2 promotions( I made a thread about it around 2015 yet was labeled a hater), lost the series vs Canelo which he was favored to win and just faded away, having multiple fans wondering what if?

 

The Canelo vs GGG fights will always come up in evaluating GGG'S career, and telling it like it really happend will never get old. There was an injustice. As for the Derevyanchenko fight, it was a very close and competitive no doubt, but fans on boxrec for example have GGG winning 115-112, same with the Jacobs fight. For the first Canelo fight they have it 116-112 and for the second fight they had it 116-114.