Who was the more dominant fighter, Beterbiev or Golovkin?

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  1. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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  2. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG is 12-2 -1 (10) against Ring mag top 10. If given credit for the Canelo wins he would be 14-1 (10) vs Ring mag top 10.
     
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  3. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a tricky one.

    Initially to me it seems clear it should be Beterbiev, given up until Bivol he had 100% KO ratio, which can't be any more dominant.

    But AB hasn't been as active as GGG, should have had more fights, and GGG's record is blighted by Vegas corruption for sure.

    GGG should have 2 wins against Canelo IMO, but he doesn't and Beterbiev got the nod against Bivol in a v close encounter.

    So officially it's Beterbiev, especially seeing got undisputed in his weight class.

    GGG probably could have been greater if he had moved up to 168 earlier - IMO he could have challenged and beat Canelo to Undisputed in that division, as he would have beat everyone that Canelo beat for sure.
     
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  4. DirtyDan

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    That might sound impressive on paper but when you take an actual look at the opponents that he fought(Willie Monroe Jr, Dominic Wade, Steve Rolls, Curtis Stevens, Marco Antonio Rubio, etc) we start to get a clearer picture of what was actually going on.

    I'd also like to know where you got this 12 number from, I'm looking through the official ring middleweight rankings from 2011-2020 and GGG only fought Daniel Geale, Curtis Stevens, Daniel Jacobs, David Lemiuex, Ryoto Murata, Sir Gay Derevyanchenko, Martin Murray, Matthew Macklin Proska and Canelo, where's your source for 12 wins cause counting from the official website it's actually 9-2-1 vs ring top 10 rated contenders.

    Again, I don't give extra credit to boxers just because I'm a fan of them, can't rewrite boxing history cause you think some guy won a fight he lost.
     
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  5. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    He lost twice and the series overall, I'm not really interested in fans scorecards, boxing has a history of nearly 2 centuries, we can't change official results because people are still crying that their guy lost.
     
  6. m.s.

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    Well, your trying to make your point that he lost and wasn't that good, arguing by saying you think he might have lost to Derevyanchenko, but you don't want to talk about the universally understood robberies like GGG vs Canelo one.
     
  7. m.s.

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    My source is the ring magazine, i collected it from the 80's tell they stopped printing them. As GGG fought a top 10 ring magazine fighter i took note in real time.
     
  8. m.s.

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    You missed Rubio, Brook who was number one at 147lbs at the time and #10 or so pfp and Szeremeta. How Szeremeta ever got in the Ring top 10 is anybody's guess but he was so it counts. So again 12-2-1 (10) KOs.
     
  9. m.s.

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    Domination wise i would say about the same, except Golovkin was dominating contenders for alot longer time. Beterbiev's best win is vs Bivol, Golovkins best win is vs Canelo at middleweight in the first fight which nobody can deny. I think a win over Canelo in one of his best divisions is a bigger win than a win for Beterbiev over Bivol.
    Canelo is a legend, Bivol is not, at least yet. Next you have Gvozdyk, i think he is over rated. His one great win was over a declining Superman Stevenson, not long after that he was beat down by Beterbiev, then he later had a chance to prove himself against Benevidez only to lose clearly again. His third best win was vs Marcus Browne,4th joe Smith, 5th Yarde,6th Callum Smith,7th cloud,8th Campillo thats about it. Beterbiev's record vs Ring mag contenders is 6-0 (5) .
    Golovkins is :
    Canelo w-12
    Jacobs w-12 (prime)
    Derevyanchenko w-12 (prime)
    Murata ko-9
    Geale ko -3 former unified 160lbs who defeated Sturm WBA super champ
    Lemiuex tko - 8
    Murray tko-11 who had a draw with Sturm, and a razor close one with Martinez, who was down in the 8th.
    Macklin ko -3
    Stevens tko -8
    and many many more.
     
  10. Boxed Ears

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    Shyeah, right. BUTTERBEANviev is more dominant than Golovkin? BUTTERBEANviev!
     
  11. Boxed Ears

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    Sorry, I'm just trying to chime in as that one forum guy who is on about his own nonsense that doesn't resonate with anyone else. I hope I've done that.
     
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  13. NoNeck

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    I was disappointed when it turned out that Bivol was the domestic abuser because if it were Artur, I'd get to call him Wife Beterbiev.
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

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    :lol: I admit, that was a loss to us all.
     
  15. bjl12

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    Gotta be Beter. He finished everyone and didnt need to be bailed out by judges like against Dervenchenko, Jacobs, and arguably Canelo 2...