Who was the most complete fighter: Leonard, Duran, or Hagler?

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Out of the 3, who do you think was the complete package overall? They all had great skillsets, could box, brawl, had great chins as well as toughness.
     
  2. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Duran was the most complete IMO followed by Hagler then Leonard
     
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  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The lightweight Duran from the third DeJesus fight might have been the complete fighter who ever lived.
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

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    Lightweight Duran might just edge out SRL for me. I think at 135 he'd be able to track down elusive boxers that he couldn't st times higher up. I would have SRL then. Hagler is pipped by these two not so much by anything he lacked physically but more so mentally. I don't think he could make in fight adjustments and strategical decision well as the other two. Of course 97% of the time he wouldn't need to given the tools he has however when we start matching great vs great these things become more visible.
     
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  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns had the best power and boxing skills combo. I don't know why he is not in here. Leonard was the most well rounded.
     
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  7. Frankus

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    Duran for me. Probably top 10 all time on most lists. He’s top 5 for me, and I think best of the past 40 years. Hagler and SRL flip a coin. Maybe the showmanship from SRL edges it.
     
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  8. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Duran at 135, then Leonard at 147 and then Hagler. But not much to choose between them all and if we're talking about their overall careers rather than at particular weights for Duran and Leonard, then Hagler could be on top.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    SRL was the most rounded of the three.

    Duran had some good performances too, but he Ko'd by one punch early by Hearns and quit vs. Leonard. Duran's durability and toughness wasn't as great as he moved up the scales.

    Hagler to me was the least rounded of the three.
     
  10. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lmao .go to the bed child
     
  11. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Leonard based on his wins at his best weight. Leonard showed it all against elite and very good competition. He was able to box well enough to land on possibly one of the greatest defensive fighters in history, able to change strategy and out punch the greatest puncher in the history of the welter div. And to adjust (though he fought a dumb fight) and fight on the inside very well with possibly the best in -fighter in history. Though Duran was on another level at lightweight and at his overwhelming best. His competition at that weight wasn't special, other than maybe K.Buchanon and Dejesus. Hagler became hesitant when faced with good slick boxers. Even in his prime he had losses to fighters who boxed very well. A blown up Duran gave him fits for 15rds by boxing smartly. He then loss to Leonard, though he was past prime. So that's my order , Leonard, slight better then Duran Both a a step ahead of Hagler.
     
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  12. Eddie Ezzard

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    Tommy, for all his attributes, wasn't well rounded, though. Being well-rounded, to me, means being able to do a bit of everything and being able to cope with any situation. I thought flash24 put it really well with his post where he pointed out that SRL out boxed the boxer, outslugged the slugger and nearly outbrawled the master brawler.

    There are lesser fighters than Hearns who you could say were more well-rounded. He had a great offence but his defence, stamina and durability were all more than questionable at the highest level imo.
     
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  13. Balder

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    Duran
    Hagler
    Leonard

    Ray relied on speed and reflexes more than anything else, when he lost that he started losing badly.

    Duran was fighting into his 50's, Even without the speed he had the ability, and know how to win, its the definition of being well rounded.

    Hagler is second, He could box, punch, had defense, serviceable speed and could switch hands with effect. He fought all comers and all styles. His major deficit was his lack of moving up weights.

    Leonard did better for a shorter amount of time and moved up weights, so he definitely had the skill ( at his best) but his over reliance on reflexes and speed cost him later.
     
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  14. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you mean to make this comment on another forum?
     
  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Excellent post although I go back and forth between Leonard and Duran .. totally agree on Hagler who somewhere deep inside seemed to lack a touch of confidence .. the way he held back against Vito and Duran .. fought weird against Leonard .. and agree w the 97% of it not mattering too .. when he went balls to the wall like against Minter or Hearns he was a monster ..
     
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