Who was the most dominant heavyweight on any given night?

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  1. Azik

    Azik New Member Full Member

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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ali v williams had the perfect mix of athleticism, confidence, style, maturity, stamina and power too

    I think this version of Ali is the best heavyweight ever

    Tyson around the spinks and Holmes fight is also worth a mention
     
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  3. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali on the night he fought Cleveland Williams. I think he'd take even Mike Tyson on the night he fought Michael Spinks.
     
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  4. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep. I think that was the single best heavyweight performance of all time, despite the fact it wasn't a KO1. Ali looked inhuman, like you'd taken a 115lb guy and sized him up to HW, and he got to keep all his athleticism and speed somehow.
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Exactly
    I know williams had seen better days, but like you said above, you had hw moving around like a bantam, or as I like to say, a heavyweight Ray Leonard

    No heavyweight should move like that
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali-Williams is a great, and to some extent textbook answer, but it was after William's near-death run-in with the law.

    To me personally, Tyson-Berbick. It was for a title, and Berbick was an extremely credible opponent at the last guy to beat Ali, the first to go the distance with Holmes in a defense, and the conqueror of Pinklon Thomas, who was highly regarded. And Tyson knocked him down three times with one punch.

    Louis breaking some of Schmeling's vertebrae is a good answer.
    Dempsey-Willard
    Marciano-Walcott II
     
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  7. Kratos

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    Ali vs Foreman by far.
     
  8. Glassbrain

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    I'd say the rematch Louis vs Schmeling was the one that came to mind. I'm not sure I'd pick many fighters to beat Louis that night.
     
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    Similarly, Lewis vs Rahman 2, Lewis looked razor sharp that night and incredibly focused.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was about to say that
     
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    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. Mike T

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    Tyson/Berbick
    Ali/Terrell
    Louis/Schmeling 2
     
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  13. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    None of these were unbeatable:


    Ali Williams
    Tyson Spinks
    Louis Schmeling 2
    Lewis Tua
    Liston Patterson 1
    Foreman Norton
    Holmes Cooney
    Usyk Joshua 1
     
  14. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling 2 is a good answer. Also Joe Louis vs. Primo Carnera, or Joe Louis vs. Max Baer, or even Joe Louis vs. Jack Sharkey or King Levinsky.
     
  15. OldSchoolBoxing

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    Andy Ruiz Jr dominated AJ in the first fight.