Who was the strongest ever Middlweight?

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  1. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marv had a tremendous physique, but Antuofermo, Minter and Hamsho seem to have had superior physical strength. (Immediately after suffering his first defeat, Czyz specifically cited Hamsho's physical strength as the key reason for that outcome, and Bobby was no 95 pound weakling.)

    In Hagler's final match, SRL shoved him back at one point, and Gil Clancy commented on the potential significance of that. Among the performances of his that I watched, Marv made the most advantage of these assets against Duran.

    Speaking of Duran, Roberto dealt with superior size and physical strength about as well as anybody of his style ever has when facing Hagler and Barkley.

    For me, Dick Tiger also sets the standard when discussing who the strongest prominent middleweight might have been.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Good post. I don't think Hagler belongs in this conversation. He was actually somewhat small looking for a middleweight. He was ripped, rough and tough and pretty strong but he's not all time best in middleweight physical strength.
     
  3. frankwornank

    frankwornank Active Member Full Member

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    Eduardo Lausse. He overpowered a prime Fullmer. Thunderous puncher. Looked like a 185 pounder. Usually weighed 156. I rate Dick Tiger 2nd to Lausse.
     
  4. ThinBlack

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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    !. Dick Tiger
    2. Gene Fullmer
    it can be debated as to who should follow and in what order.
     
  6. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Greb and Walker can't have been anything but top tier here.
     
  7. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Juan Roldan was the strongest middleweight I've seen from my era/lifetime (1970s-present)

    All-time? In addition to Roldan I'd say Lausse, Tiger, Fullmer, LaMotta, Shorty Hogue,Jack Dillon, Les Darcy, Bob Fitzsimmons, Carter.....lots more....
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Anyone mention Gerald McClellan?

    He was a huge middle and walked through other middles like they were nothing.
     
  9. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    I don't see evidence to support a claim for Greb to be fair. Everything I've read suggests he was an in and out swarmer. He doesn't look like an enforcer in the training footage either.
     
  10. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you determine who was the "strongest middleweight " ? What does strong mean? Strong puncher , Strong Taker, chin, stamina ? It is a nebulous question,and I pass, but a few oldtimers I have read about with powerful physiques were Frank Klaus
    and Jack Dillon. They were chiseled,as was Battling Siki,and Dick Tiger, but no one had the whiskers of a Jake LaMotta, who withstood the grenades of Bob Satterfield,and the horrendous onslaught of Ray Robinson, whilst being severely weight drained,after losing about 12 pounds just prior to the fight. Jake had a chin for all seasons...
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fighters that simply didn't get backed up or out-muscled in the trenches. Briscoe fought all forward, but Valdez showed that he was more than capable of matching him for strength when he wanted. However, guys like LaMotta and especially Tiger just didn't know how to be out-muscled. Tiger especially, given the kinds of men he took on.
     
  12. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Hagler was physically very strong. He was a strong puncher but I mean he could take a punch and I think his physicality was strong.
     
  13. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I need some help..... I saw this Australian MW,... back in 1916 I think,.... what's his name ? ----- I can't remember but he looks huge and strong at MW.... they said he was real good too.
     
  14. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Klaus was quite short looking at his photo's in his book "The Art Of Infighting",.... a book I highly recommend....... I can supply a link for a free download if anybody is interested.
     
  15. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toadfish? From Neighbours?

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