Who Was Tommy Burns, Worst Title Challenger??

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    From what little I know about Burn s, a couple of his title challengers were hardly GOAT s, but which of them was the absolute pits?
    This is directed to those posters on here that know their Burns from their Bums!
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It makes me feel sad to think about it.
     
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    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jewey Smith.
     
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    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ravishing Ray Rademacher in an unlicensed, unrecorded fight at Prince Edward Island AC.
     
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  5. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smith if we discount O'Brien and Walker.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Was Jack Palmer any better?

    In fairness he only held the title for two years.

    He won it against Hart in 1906, and the same year beat Fireman Flynn, and drew with Jack O'Brien
    In 1907 he beats Jack O'Brien, Bill Squires and Gunner Moir
    In 1908 he beat Bill Lang and loses the title to Jack Johnson.

    I don't think the fact he beat a bunch of guys who in no ways deserved a title shot in the mean time ought to be held against him.

    He did a better job of meeting title challenges than many early champions, including the likes of Jack Dempsey.
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Valid point.

    He was an active champion, and he earned the right to meet a few stiffs, betwixt legit defenses!
     
  8. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was Jack Palmer any better? Good question! Not a lot better but he defeated marginally better fighters near their beak eg Williams, Lalor and Taylor plus a creditable draw with Jack Twin Sullivan. Smith had longevity on his side but appears to have improved AFTER the Burns fight. BTW I respect Burns, he beat O'Brien, Hart and Flynn, genuine contenders.
     
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