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Did he school you too?

 

Not even once.

Nice old guy though.

 

Exactly. There were discrepancies over rhe exact cause.

Schaff was winning fights and regaing form as a top contender since the Baer loss.

After the fight, the newspapers went with the "walking wounded, shouldn't have been in the ring" angle because that was a more sensational.

But it simply does not stack up. Before the fight Schaff was the favourite because he was back to winning form. How can he be favorite and back to winning form if hes "walking wounded" and not training? How was schaff winning his recent fights by knockout in that condition?

It was simply a mysterious death.

 

No discrepancy about Schaaf's fitness to fight though! The public were unaware Schaaf was recovering from," a severe case of flu".
Why do you perversely fly in the face of verified facts here? Schaaf should not have been fighting end of!

 

Favourite WTF !Jeffries was the favourite over Johnson! Liston over Ali,Baer over Braddock WTF does that mean?
Do you think the public would have been allowed to be privy to Schaaf's condition?

 

Schaff vs Carnera was a big fight. 18,000 fans went to see it. And it was a world title eliminator. The press would have been visiting both training camps and the build up would have been reported on in the way all fights of that magnitude was. Schaff was the clear favourite. There was no whispers before the fight that Schaff was under the weather.

 

The report said Schaff had been treated for flu some weeks earlier.

That could actually mean he had the flu between Schaffs last two fights against unknown Winston and Stanly poreda - who Ernie knocked out.

Officially, traces of undetectable spinal meningitis were present, microscopic traces, And during a long fight, together with the the punches from Carnera aggravated the virus, causing swelling in the brain. That was the real conclusion.

Everything else written about this is a case of two and two making five. The Max Baer Beating, going into the fight with flu are just theories. They made it into boxing folks lore, but it just isn’t consistent with the facts. Mostly myth.

A sad and tragic mysterious death. That’s the truth.

On paper, The poreda win looks about as good as anything on Schaffs record.

The schaff fight had a tragic end, but is a notable win for Carnera.

 

But he was and his corner knew it!

 

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Says who? His corner? Did Schaffs mother ever complain? Are there any angry complaining reports of Sharkey and Duffy knowingly sending Schaff out unprepared? This death was a big deal. Did the commission fine or revoke or ban anyone for knowingly passing Schaff medically fit to fight When he wasn’t?

No they didn’t because he was passed fit to fight. So much so Schaff was favourite to win.

In an era where one referee was suspended for giving a bad decision against Carnera you would think they would also suspend a doctor who allowed one of the fighters in a main event in front of 18,000 fans to go into the ring suffering from a serious illness -If That was the official finding. Even in those days they checked for that kind of thing.

Boxing was on the ropes and highly scrutinised. Especially major events.