Who were the best fighters Dempsey beat ?

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  1. Sonny's jab

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    I would say, the top 3, in chronological order :

    Fred Fulton (KO1, 1918.)
    Tommy Gibbons (PTS15, 1923)
    Jack Sharkey (KO7, 1927)

    And then probably followed by :
    Bill Brennan (KO6, 1918.)
    Billy Miske (W6, 1918.)
    and
    Luis Firpo (KO2, 1923)

    I guess Battling Levinsky (KO3, 1918.), Ed "Gunboat" Smith (KO2, 1918.), Jess Willard (TKO3, 1919) and Georges Carpentier (KO4, 1921) would make up the top 10.
     
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  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Those are good picks. Some of Dempsey's best work was before he won the title.
     
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  3. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    The Frenchman lightheavyweight was a great fighter that Dempsey kayoed in 4 in 1921. Georges Carpientier.
     
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  4. Sonny's jab

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    Yeah, I'm sure the first Brennan fight and the Fulton blow-out in particular would add a lot to the way he is viewed, and convince some of his detractors, IF they were among the films.
     
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  5. Woddy

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    Wasn't Fred Fulton a #1 contender whom Dempsey blasted in the shortest victory over a top rater in history?

    I could be mixing him up with someone else though.
     
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  6. Sonny's jab

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    You're right.
    Fulton lasted 18 or 23 seconds (depending on which report you read), and that's INCLUDING the ten count.
    Fulton was regarded as a leading contender, and favoured to beat Dempsey (he'd already beaten Sam Langford), he was 6'5 and 215 pounds.
     
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  7. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Agreed, he was a great fighter, but at HW his resume is pretty thin IMO, his win over Miske was better IMO...
     
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  8. Sonny's jab

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    Carpentier was better when he was a youngster, before the first world war.
    But he was still pretty good when he fought Dempsey, and had recently KO'd Battling Levinsky for the 175 pound title.
    He was a sharp enough puncher to rock Dempsey at one point, but Dempsey really battered him after that.
     
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  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    This is probably a good list of Dempsey's best works. Although, I might be inclined to placing a Jess Willard a little bit higher, only because he was the champion whom Dempsey took the title from. Of course, I'm aware that Willard was coming off a layoff.
     
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  10. Sonny's jab

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    Yeah, it's only the layoff that made me put him in the third tier.
     
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  11. janitor

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    That would have blown peoples minds at the time.

    Going into the fight it was a pick em between the two top contenders with a big weight disparity.

    23 seconds after the first bell it was over.

    1. Fulton bit on a feint.

    2. Dempsey hit him with a body shot putting him on ***** street.

    3. Dempsey concluded matters.

    The crowd had paid good money to see a boxing match. No wonder Tex Rickard asked Dempsey to carry Carpinter for a couple of rounds.
     
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  12. janitor

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    Willard is a bit of an enigma at that point.

    He went on to beat Floyd Johnson so he probably had something left.
     
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  13. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Dempsey could reach 6'5" Fulton's chin, then he would reach
    6' 5" fighters of today's chins too.

    Dempsey was rock hard, and would probably weigh 200-205 lbs today.

    A collision course with Tyson would have been something else.
     
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  14. markedwardscott

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    Carpentier stunned Dempsey with a right but Dempsey just too big for him. Carpentier one of the all-time great light-heavyweights.
     
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  15. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here's a Callis/Jorgensen article on Miske

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