Who were the top five fighters of this decade, 2000-2009?

You didn't answer my question.

I'll ask you again, do YOU hold the Judah win in higher regard than the Hamed win?

 

You couldnt get your answer from my last post? On paper it will always rank higher, in reality, in the context of the fight, Judah certainly gave a far better account of a world class fighter. Hamed looked like it was the first time he laced on a pair of boxing gloves, he was a technical mess, and certainly showed more lack of heart than Judah did against Cotto.

 

Such a list without the Klit Bros. can't be serious.

 

Hamed was a very solid champion and a name in the sport. He was never 'great' parsé, but world-class certainly. Barrera boxed his ears like it was a sparring session with an unknown at times.

Cotto has indeed has a solid reign at welterweight and light welterweight, but the likes of Torres, Quintana, Malignaggi, Corley, Judah etc are or were at the time nothing more than B level. None of those are elite.

Barrera has 2 wins over Morales, one when he was pretty much primed, and pushed him very, very close in another contest against a truly prime version. Along with the win over Hamed and some other solid wins over the likes of Peden, Ayala and Juarez.

It doesn't matter if Cotto has finished his career. This is for the top 5 fighters of the decade. That's 2000-2009. So he's finished in regards with enhancing his resumé for this decade.

Cotto's best win is the close decision over Mosley - who's still a very good fighter but past his prime, evidenced by the lacklustre performance against Mayorga in particular. The Margarito fight was perfect for him. He had all the stylistic advantages.

Barrera's best win is the close decisions over Morales x2. Now Morales was closer to his prime than Mosley and just as good. Add that to his excellent win over Hamed - arguably better than any other Cotto win, and it's pretty evident he's achieved more.

 

I wouldnt argue with Mosely at no6.

Ps. He DID NOT win that 2nd fight with Oscar tho (& Im no DLH fan), I dont give a **** what those 3 fat blind pricks said

 

Pac, B-Hop, PBF and Wlad should be locks. The 5th is open to discuss. JMM, Mosley, Barrera, Calzaghe and a few more have some arguments.

 

Hamed wasnt elite either, as much as you might think he was, he wasnt. I never called those fighters you listed as elite, but there sure is a lot of them on his resume.
Ive acknowledged the Morales wins as great wins for Marco, but Barrera hasnt had one of those great wins since 2004. Besides Juarez who he rematched because of a split decision close win, there is little substance to call him such a high stand out in the decade. Barrera fought a guy 1-7 in 2009 and 25-19 in 2008. Everything else has been losses besides the two wins over 'B" level opponents in 05 and 06, which hardly stacks up to who Cotto has beaten in that same amount of time.
Cotto beat Clotty, Mosley, Judah, Quintana, and Malignaggi since 2006 alone.
Barrera may have the better name win, but Cotto has a longer list of solid fighters, especially in recent years where Barrera wasnt as active or successful against the better fighters he faced. Just my opinion, dont see how thats so far off base that I have to get attacked by the Brits, but I know they have their own agenda.

 

This is p4p mate, neither Klitchko is on the same tier as Floyd, Pac, Morales, Barrera or Hopkins.... & in terms of skillset, its embarrassing to even put their name on the same forum as Mayweather never mind the same top 5 list.

:good

 

Addie loves his mexican warriors but there aint nothing wrong with that! Personally i dont think Casamayor belongs on the list; and i feel that Cotto should be above Izzy and Rafa who other than each other are lacking on resume. Winky Wright has a win over Trinidad as well as two over Mosley and i feel that he perhaps should be higher to. Its pretty much the same faces though.

 

Cannot believe what I am seeing no Felix Trinidad or Lennox Lewis.

My top 5 of this decade are PBF Money Mayweather, Felix Tito Trinidad, Bernard Hopkins and I have Marquez, Morales, Barrera and Pacman bracketed together as joint 5.

 

Two wins over Morales + win over Hamed + solid wins over Juarez x2, Ayala, Peden etc. And you think that edging a past-prime Mosley, edging Clottey in a very close fight, beating Torres, Malignaggi, Quintana and past his best Judah equats to that level?

 

Lewis retired in '03, having beaten at the turn of the century Michael Grant, Francois Botha, David Tua, going 1-1 with Rahman, way past prime Tyson and cut stoppage over Vitali Klitschko. I don't think that's enough to put him in the top 5. Likewise Tito, post-2000 he beat David Reid, Mamadou Thiam, Vargas, Joppy, Cerifi and Mayorga and lost to Hopkins, Winky and Roy. That's not enough to get him top 5 either in my books.

 

This isn't p4p. And even if it was at least one Klitschko should be on that list.

 

One solid win over Juarez one split decision win, and really I dont care to argue it further. Theres a longer list of solid fighters that Cotto faced to add to that list, go look at this resume. I was just comparing their wins in the last three four years.
Ayala was done when he fought Barrera, was never a true 126 pounder, nor was Tapia, nor where they ever big punching threats at their respective natural weights. just world class solid technicians, but judging their performances against Barrera, that late in their careers, at 126 becomes subjective. Kevin Kelley was a decent fighter, but he was shot to pieces when Barrera fought him. Peden falls in nicely with the B level type fighters, but probably about as weak of a puncher as Malignaggi is in his respective weight class so hardly a threat to the slipping Barrera. Thats all I got to say....

 

Excellent post.