Who will be most remembered and talked about 50 years from now...

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Neither. Does anybody talk about fighters from 50 years past besides old farts nowadays? The internet is the instant now generation. It will only get worse.

 

Prime Margarito, Prime Cotto, younger Mosley,Williams, Martinez, Prime Paqiuao when he was destroying everybody. He never fought any of them, or at least when they weren't shot to pieces. He just waited for them to KO each other. Floyd is good, but not great. Hyped up to be a top ATG, but he is not. If he would have fought any of the guys mentioned above he would have 1 or 2 KO losses. Even now he fights a safe fight against Gurrero. Why not Martinez? because HBO will still hype him up as top 10 ATG if he beats a B level guy and hides from a threat. Floyd is 50 percent hype and 50 percent skills. Ward should be number 1 p4p, Floyd didn't do ****.

 

of course its paquiao, he has many more fights that will be replayed as classics to future fans. he is more connected through the ring with other great fighters.

 

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exactly, people would love to see the tasmanian devil KOing somebody, instead of watching overrated Floyd jabbing another overmatched, overhyped fighter for 12 rounds.

 

Pac. His fights are fan friendly, thus more likely to be replayed in ESPN classic, especially with ATGs like the "3 Amigos", ODLH and HoF like Cotto.

Being remember is most about emotional / visceral impact. Pac has it both in winning and losing.

 

As a classic boxing fan, I will give you my opinion based on what has gone before. I think that Pacquio will be remembered as the best fighter of this period, with Mayweather as a close second.

When looking at great fighters of the past in retrospect, ability to beat name fighters in multiple weight classes is heavily rewarded, and defeats are not heavily punished in a fighter who has met tough opposition. Failure to make a key fight will damage a fighters reputation among historians, but not irretrievably so.

Other contemporary fighters who I confidently expect to be listed as greats, include Marquez, Hopkins, Ward, and Klitschko junior.

 

Pac was KOing, fighters who were weight drained, coked up, and coming off KO losses themselves.

Aturo Gatti, had more action packed, fan friendly fights then Mayweather, but skill is what makes great fighters not throwing a bunch of wild punches.

 

funny how these weight drained fighters wanted nothing to do with the little giant after their humiliation, one would think they would want to set the record straight one day if it was just due to draining, smarter fans know better. guys like pac will always be remembered over guys like floyd, always have and always will, its part of the payoff and cost of choosing how to conduct your career.

 

Both will be remembered, Pac for his entertaining fights, Floyd for his amazing skills

 

People always remember the heavyweights. Therefore it has to be Wladimir Klitschko. But between Money and Pac I can't say right now. Would have to wait to see how exactly they end their careers.

 

Pacquiao fought those guys 3, 2, and 4 times...6-2-1 record.

 

deal:deal

 

Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.
"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.

"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.

"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."

With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.

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The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent.

We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

----From: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259293&page=4

Cotto and Arum sat ringside when Floyd trounced Gatti. Arum said after the fight that Cotto wasn't yet ready.

Yeah, Floyd "ducked" a prime/young Mosley.

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You say Floyd's best wins are against fighters "shot to ****"? Holy ****. Pacquiao, the one who was "destroying everybody" has no notable wins above 135. Let's examine:

DLH coming off loss to Floyd and fight against Steve Forbes (light puncher) who breaks DLH's orbital bone. Then DLH weighs in on fight night less than his supposedly smaller opponent. DLH was a walking zombie. Not to mention clearly "shot to ****", as you call it.

Hatton almost lost to every opponent following his knockout loss to Floyd.

Cotto was demolished by Margs and then given a gift decision where he looked like **** against Clottey. At a catchweight.

Margs is coming off a demolition loss to Mosley and then barely beats a journeyman. The fight happens at a catchweight and a rehydration limit.

Then a 38 year old JMM beats Pac.

Then Pac wins but looks very meh against Bradley.

Then Pac gets KTFO by a slower, 39 y.o. JMM

Yeah, he was "destroying" people.

Apparently you don't read often. Martinez fights Martin in April.

 

Floyd will be remembered for who he didn't fight. Pacquiao will go down as a legend.