Who will be remembered as the greater fighter: Pacquiao or Marquez

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He only won one fight of the four and that was after Pacquiao was ruined by Marquez, Morales, Cotto and Margarito wars.

    If Marquez is the pappy of Pac than Frazier is Ali's pappy who bobbed, weaved, got inside and delivered a pretty out and out ass kicking to Ali. We're talking about flush left hook after flush left hook. Amazing Ali could even finish the fight.
     
  2. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    i dont know

    and i dont really care

    they are both good

    at what they do

    you got to respect that

    i think
     
  3. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Ali finished the fight on his feet though. Unlike Pac who needed two pounds of smelling salts and an Indian shaman to bring him back from the dead. Marquez is Pac's pappy if he only had ktfo 6, the knockout of the millennium.
     
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  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    obviously pac. marquez was just the hardest tree for him to cut down, and it finally fell on him.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Doesn't make Larry Holmes pappy of Ali? I mean we haven't even gotten into Ken Norton yet. I don't get this whole Marquez pappy thing about Pac. You realize that Pacquiao is so much greater than Marquez right? He sits barely outside the top 10 ATG by historians like Bert Sugar, Max Kellerman, Manny Steward. 8 division titles.
     
  6. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    This thread is about Pac and Marquez and not Ali. Pac sits way outside of the top 10 atg and is only considered close to this ranking by some of his delusional fan base. Mayweather ranks highter than Pac imo and Mayweather is maybe in top twenty five.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was using Ali as an example to illustrate the double standard given to Pacquiao. If winning the Flyweight and Welterweight titles were so easy then why has nobody else came close to doing it?
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Despite losing by an emphatic knockout in the last bout of their series, it's Pac.
     
  9. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran got KO'd brutally by Hearns and is still considered as greater. Same with Jersey Joe Walcott KOing Ezzard Charles. Point is, despite being KO'd they still achieved so much more and their conquerors should not be considered as "better" or their "pappy" as you like to call it.
    And Pacquiao has a case to being close to the Top 15 ATG list.
     
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  10. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    All credit to Pac for moving up so many weight divisions and being relevant in those weight divisions but let's not pretend that he beat the best fighters in those weight divisions. Pac has had a well managed career at the higher weights.
     
  11. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    lol We are all entitled to our own opinions.
     
  12. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes we are. :) And I and many others believe that as well with Manny being ranked that high. Has nothing to do with delusional fanbase.
     
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  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had the series 1 each with 2 draws. thought JMM gave the 3rd one away in the final rounds so scored that even.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Since when was Sasakul not the best Flyweight in the world. That's the same man who beat Yuri Arbachakov who was one of the greatest fighters of the 1990s. What about Barrera, Morales and Marquez. Those were great fighters. How about Hatton, Cotto and Margarito. Not a bum in that group, that's for sure.
     
  15. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Weren't Hatton, Cotto and Margarito coming off of recent beatings?