Who will be remembered as the greater fighter: Wladimir Klitschko or Riddick Bowe?

-Evander wasn't himself in that fight, he was uncommonly lethargic after just one round so I believe him.

-I think you are confused. Unlike types B or C, Hepatits A has no chronic symptoms, it's over after you recover. Only 15 % have reported symptoms longer than 6 months after infection.

 

-You said "Golota was almost ko'd in the 4th" When I disagreed, you cited his actions in the 9th round. You are getting confused and contradicting yourself as you tend to do.

-Thus I was correct. The reach difference was also apparent and significant. Golota was having to step inside Bowe's reach to jab him.

-Golota showed more punch variety than Wlad, but many fighters do. I have to disagree about their defense, Golota only looked good at spurts, for every moment he looked good slipping punches, there are other moments with him just dropping his guard and cluelessly walking into stuff. Wlad is excellent at consistently parrying punches, a lost art form. Wlad is no doubt the much more difficult opponent to hit. Golota had lapses where he was consistenlty tagged by guys like T-Rex Sanders and Darnel Nicholson.

 

You could be right as he did seem lethargic. I just don't remember it being anything more than a rumor. Either way its hard for me to blame Bowe for doing his job if Holy came in at less than optimal condition.

 

Its not about blaming Bowe but just accessing the fight realistically, it was an ugly affair. Bowe really didn't look too hot either, he was slowing down bigtime and had some very vulnerable moments. Both men were a shadow of the physical specimans from the first fight. Only 3 years had passed but it looks like 10.

 

This I agree with 100%. I've said many times that those fights took massive tolls on each fighter.

 

Perhaps but given his age and bulk gain, Evander looked fantastic in the Mercer and Tyson fights sandwhiched between this. For whatever the reason the third Bowe fight was an abnormality, much like his equally awful performance against Moorer.

Bowe was on the slide but in large part because of his poor conditioning. He also didn't just take punishment against Evander, he admited to being out on his feet against the hard hitting Hide as he walked into his punches in the opening rounds.

 

Bowe defeated 5 straight undefeated fighters. Solid contenders like.. H.Hide..L.Donald...J. Gonzalas..Buster Mathis. Like stated two victorys over The Great Holyfield is more than both klit brothers ever did...Fact!

 

Mathis was a controverial NC and frankly, Bowe should have been DQed. It was not a victory by any means. So it was only three straight wins and only two were ranked contenders though neither had did much or were around for very long in the ratings, but as you said, solid. I think Wlad's stolen zeroes over Povetkin, Brock, Peter, Chageav, and Ibragimov tops them.

 

People in Europe will remember Wlad. Boxing diehards also. The average fan will remember Bowe for the Holy and Golota fights. Bowe seems to be more known than Wlad. Wlad has had the better career. Wlad is just such a turn off because of his style. He's remembered more for his losses than his recent dominance. It's a shame that Wlad never received universal love. But when you fight the way he does, fans have a choice. Watch him or loath him.

 

Wlad, despite of his somewhat humiliating defeats, will be remembered as the greater fighter in the long run.

 

I said when Golota realized Bowe was going nowhere and when he began to come on strong again , thats when Golota decided he wanted to go home.

Pulling straight back is not parrying shots. Any skilled HW from former era's who could do more than just walk in a straight line would follow up with a succession of punches and Wlad would be up **** creek.
The limited Brewster followed up with shots and was able to clear him out in 5.
Hollyfield was a master at parrying. Wlad is a master at nothing.

 

-And I disagreed with your assumption that Golota was nearly KOed in the 4th. And you got all smartass saying Golota knows better than me and cited his 9th round meltdown. I'm not sure you even know what you were originally trying to say.

-No, swating away punches is parrying and Wlad does that very effectively. Most notoriously, he shut down Ibragimov by doing nothing but parrying. He is tough to hit and simply putting punches won't cut it. You don't tihnk Povetkin, Haye, Ibragimov, Peter...etc wanted to put punches together like they normally did against opponents not named Wlad? They couldn't.

-You seem to recount the Brewster fight in a variety of distortions to fit whatever topic you are arguing. Wlad blew his load trying for a knockout after dropping Brewster, he was dead on his feet when Brewster rallied. All you can say is Wlad's defense certainly sucked when he had his arms down, huffing for air.

Brewster showed remarkable toughness, Wlad great stupidity, but there is no Rosetta Stone here. I've been telling you guys the real match that exposes Wlad's faults for a long time now, but you would rather dwell on his last great blunder because you think its cute.

 

Ibragimov shut himself down. He had already chose to quit boxing due to his religious beliefs and turned up just to collect a check. He had no intention of trying to win and Wlad still managned to take him the distanceatsch

 

:-(

You sound as crazy as the "Wlad was drugged" crowd, just the otherside of the spectrum.