Who will be remembered as the greater fighter

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kg0208, Mar 18, 2008.


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  1. Main Events

    Main Events Member Full Member

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    Up to this point RJJ hands down, lets see what happens for Pac at 135 lbs after 2 years and let us bump this thread again.
     
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  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Hey johnco...send me your address. I'll mail you some money. Maybe you can buy some dignity.
     
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  3. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hahahaha... you make me laugh ******. :lol: :lol:

    first of all, i hope the mods read your interesting point about P.I. but the thing is, I live here in states and educated here.
    :rofl :rofl
    and dont turn your anger to that country. IT is not the people's fault to be like that. it is politics. and what's the connection about Philippines, Poverty, Your goverment aid to Boxing??? :lol: :lol: i see, you are
    getting PARANOID you are resulting to different tactic. i understand . resulting to any tactic to cover your sorry loser ass :rofl :rofl :rofl

    lets talk about boxing shall we and how did your boy lost... and please. dont assume yourself that you are smarter than asians :good :good i am going to kick your ass especially math and science :rofl and not all those who live below poverty line you can just outsmart.. lots of public school students there will make you like a wimp ;)

    and mind you. pac's victory is not tainted. if Nacho taught your boy not to do the reverse dive (attached) then i do believe your boy should have won the fight.. :rofl :rofl it is the deciding factor right, that is according to the critics.

    btw, THATS PERFECT 10 :lol: :lol:
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    cry me a river fruitcake. pac's name is already in the record book. :rofl
     
    johnco, Mar 18, 2008
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  4. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    stop stalking me screech.... get back to your show. :blood
     
    johnco, Mar 18, 2008
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  5. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If they stopped fighting today Roy Jones but I think Manny can soon catch up
     
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  6. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  7. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Roy Jones in his prime was Jesus with boxing gloves. He was unbeatable in the the 90s and early '00s
     
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  8. HauntingTheHoly

    HauntingTheHoly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jesus "Turn the other cheek" Christ is the most legendary ***** of all time, you know that, right? :yep
     
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  9. doknochrisan

    doknochrisan Puncher Full Member

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    PAC can never win a Heavyweight title, I'm with you on this:good :patsch
     
    doknochrisan, Mar 18, 2008
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  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He said TOP it....not do it.

    Basically, Pacquiao would have to win a Jr MW trinket to do it. Jones came in under the CW limit and beat a HW. Yes, Pacquiao has moved up in weight, but it has always been a natural progression. His start from flyweight is only because he was 16 (Jones would been a LW at 16, at least he was in the amateurs) and his true size as a man was at 122. Since then he has moved up when he has gotten too big for his weight class. That's why he is having trouble making weight at 130 now. Jones literally moved up in weight to HW to fight someone much bigger without ever actually being near that weight.
     
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  11. HauntingTheHoly

    HauntingTheHoly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    CW is 190, right? And Jones weighed in at 192. This was even an error b/c there was a mistake by the man operating the scale (There is a youtube vid about this someone else posted). Roy weighed right at 200.

    More importantly, Pac beating a 154 lbs belt holder would maybe be like Roy dominating Lennox at the time, not John Ruiz. I'd give Pac the same credit as Roy or more if he beat a 140 lbs belt holder.
     
    HauntingTheHoly, Mar 18, 2008
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  12. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    :rofl
     
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  13. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    RJJ. definitely
     
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  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones weighed 199 that night, at least that is what he has always insisted. And the CW limit is 200, though I am unsure of what it was then.

    Why would Pacquiao beating 154 title holder be like Jones beating Lewis? Jones was never a true LHW, and was always outweighed on fight night. He would come in at 179-181 tops usually wheras his opponents were 185 or higher. Pacquiao has been bigger than every 130 opponent he has faced, weighing in at 140 or over in each of those fights (I am pretty sure of this, a Pacquiao fan would have to concur). Jones never fought at LHW and weighed in near CW or HW on fight night.

    My point is, Pacquiao would need to move up to a sufficient weight where he was actually the much smaller man and beat a beltholder there. Perhaps 154 was too far. WW would suffice. But not 140. He weighs more than that on fight night at 130, (145 against JMM), even if it is rehydrated. He is now a natural LW according to him, just a small one. Jones was a natural small LHW at his peak and jumped two weight classes to fight a belt holder. Pacquiao would need to do the same.
     
    kg0208, Mar 18, 2008
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  15. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    I'll remember RJJ as a great fighter in terms of skills during his prime . . . I'll remember Pacquaio as a great fighter in terms of excitement.

    Overall . . . RJJ over Pac.
     
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