Who will be the man at heavy in two years?

Joshua is the most skilled , biggest banger, combos like canelo, balance like GGG...

Joshua's the real deal, coming from the US

 

There is some awesome talent and there are guys who will be developing and people going backwards so it's really hard to know, right now I voted Luis Ortiz which tbh kindof surprised me and it'd probably be different if you asked me on another day but the reason that popped into my head is not only is he unbeaten, he hasn't even looked in any kind of real danger in any of his fights yet.

His win against Bryant Jennings was completely convincing (moreso than Klit's win over him) - he was easily winning on points by my count and then won by KTFO, he looked like he was pacing himself well and he didn't NEED the KO nor was he looking to be trying too hard to achieve it - but he has the power, skill and endurance to make outcomes like that happen against elite fighters. Other names on that list have looked far more in danger against far less fighters and/or haven't fought anyone high enough to really get any kind of gauge.

He must have improved a heap since his fight with Dillian Whyte, then!

 

I think Wlad is going to retire win or lose to Fury. Wlad is on his last leg. That being said, I believe its Ortiz, he's big, skilled and hits like a truck. If his chin is solid, he'll be hard to beat.

 

Yeah that's the main thing I can see against him - however 2 years isn't THAT long and he's hardly looking like he's struggling right now, it depends on how backwards he slides and how forwards the others jump.

AJ, Joseph Parker etc are really more likely to be getting their stride in 3-4 years time

 

Ortiz vs Jennings was one of the easiest fights to score ever he'd win a round clearly then the next round he would take a round off and lose clearly. 3-3 at the time of the ko, when he actually fought he looked great but his stamina and work rate and chin are very suspect @ this stage. Jennings was hitting him clean very regularly.

 

Actually now that you say that - I'll correct myself. You're right, it was a while ago and I guess how massively Ortiz did when I thought it'd be an uphill battle made it go down in my memory as a HUGE win by Ortiz (well it was, but not as dominant as I stated it)... I still don't actually remember ever considering it even but yeah I probably overstated it... to me it looked like Ortiz was looking like he was going to win through the fight, to me he still never looked in danger as such while it was clear Jennings could go out at any time though it was a *good* fight.

To me Ortiz seems VERY calculated and the stamina could be a thing, but so far he seems to know how to play to win and it wasn't a KO to save him from a loss.

In terms of fitness - Ortiz actually threw well over 400 punches and landed over 120 of them in those 7 rounds.... that's fairly active compared to a lot of the heavy weight fights we've been seeing (he landed roughly the same amount of punches in 7 rounds as the combined amount of landed punches in the 12 round Fury/Klitschko fight)

 

He might be older than 36.
He sure looks it.

 

I voted Joshua but not with confidence. I really have no idea and that's what makes it exciting. 2 years may be far too soon for Joshua, too. It was more a case of who not to pick. Fury or Joshua here.

 

I voted Joshua but i think that's more because I see more issues with the other fighters abilities. Wlad too old, Povetkin too old and small, wilder chinny and weak comp, Haye would struggle with the really big men like Fury, Fury just isnt that skilfull and is chinny.

 

joshua
ortiz

 

Ortiz.

 

I will LOL if Wlad is still grinding away at the top in 2 years time. Dino and Herol will cut their wrists ...

 

There won't be a "the man", rather than a couple of guys who can beat eachother.