Who will beat Wlad?

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  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    I'd like to see that too if unification isn't possible.
     
  2. RUSKULL

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    I think Rahman is a better puncher than Peter & Oleg is not the same fighter that was KO'd vs. Whitaker, Johnson & McCall. He's improved his overall boxing skills since then.
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course the Mccall fight was like his 7th fight of his career, but Maskaev is like 38 now and should be at the end of his career. If Peter blows Maskaev out will you finally give Peter some credit?
     
  4. RUSKULL

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    I would give Peter the 4th spot that Maskaev now holds since Ibragimov has defended his belt already, not just won it. Peter is tied for #5 with Valuev at this point.
     
  5. ralphc

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    Nobody has actually beaten Wladimir Klitschko, what he does is beat himself. Unless Povetkin corrects the defects in his style, I don't think there is anybody in the division ready to impose their will and defeat Klitschko. If Klitschko takes another loss it will most likely be another case of blowing it again.
     
  6. Relentless

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    the man that will beat waldo will be ruslan 'the white tyson' chagaev.
     
  7. drvooh

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    Do you think KO because Peter was shown to be kockdownable ?? ( is that a word?? )....So Wlad is more comfortable and confident, right?? Otherwise, he should have kod' him in their first fight:hey
     
  8. Punisher33

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    I got him at the 3 spot, and would put him at 2 if he would win. Iggy has been fighting the worst competition lately so he is behind Peter at this point, Chageav has beat the better competition but needs to start fighting more to keep his 2 spot.
     
  9. drvooh

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    First of all, Jazzster, glad to see ya back in action...2ndly, you make a good pernt ( point ) :good
     
  10. Punisher33

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    The reason why we havn't seen Wlad in panic mode lately is because no one has been able to pressure Wlad and hit him with effective shots, niether Bryd, Austin, Brewster, or brock was able to pressure Wlad, they let him stay back in his comfort zone and let him control the pace.

    There is no one that could out box Wlad right now, you most pressure him into your type of fight and be agressive on the inside, you most be the bully in there to win against him.
     
  11. Mindspring

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    Suddenly, Peter's chin has been brought into question, thanks to McCline. Amazing, I saw Wlad blast him with a right hand and Peter shook his head. That "spooked" Manny and Wlad turned off the jets for most of the fight.Wlad fought a very timid and tentative fight. But he still knocked the hell out of Peter. How anyone could rank Peter no.2 is unbelievable. Alot on this forum think they have been "bamboozled", including me.
     
  12. Heavyrighthand

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    I think Brewster, esepeciallly, tried to pressure Wlad and tried to get inside and land. I also think others tried, as well. But Wlad's left hand is the great equalizer when someone wants to get inside his reach.

    Its not that they didn't try, its that they were unsuccessful at it. Wlad and Steward go to great lengths to build a very tight wall of defense to keep would be KO punchers at bay, with lateral movement, and that always present, jackhammer jab. That's hard to penetrate, as all these recent opponents have learned.

    Brewster tried like hell to get inside, as I recall.


    That said, I think the toughest fight for Wlad would be, hands down, Chagaev. Chagaev is really the only competitive fight for Wlad, at this point. The others who's be right behind Chagaev as a good opponent for Wlad would be, 1.Valuev, 2. Ibragimov, then 3.Povetkin-Peter-Maskaev........
     
  13. Punisher33

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    Not to try and discredit Wlad, but it was plain to see Brewster was done before the fight even started, anyone in the top 10 would of had there way with Brewster that night IMO.

    None of the other fighters really didnt get on the inside of Wlad, niether Brock or Bryd our inside fighters really. I agree its tough to get on the inside of Wlad, but if you can eat some leather you could get on the inside of Wlad and do some damage. Peter is the last heavywieght to give Wlad any kind of pressure and be somewhat effective with it, pressure is the key to possibly beating Wlad IMO.
     
  14. Heavyrighthand

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    I agree that pressure gives one the best chance of getting to him, but I also think you confuse trying to get inside and being unsuccessful, with being shot before the fight, regarding Brewster.

    He tried, and trained. But when he started paying the price, you can't suddenly assume he was shot......that discredit's Wlad's performance.

    Brewster was Brewster that night. He tried his usual ploy to charge in and KO the opponent..........But Wlad was prepared for and successful at defending against Brewster's game by repeatedly nailing him with the left hand, and taking him apart with the right.
     
  15. Punisher33

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    I have been watching Breswter since he fought in my hometown of pittsburgh against Etienne in 2000, the man has the most heart of any other boxer I have ever seen live. Brewster has been in wars all of his career and never gave up, there was something wrong with him that night IMO, and I know Im not the only one that thought that.

    Wlad is good at stopping other fighters from being effective, I agree with you there. How do explain a very green Peter being able to get on the inside of Wlad at times, what made him different from all the other fighters?