Who will Danny Green fight next?

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  1. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Green and Mundine are big earners. Phil was going to let Mundine fight Medley for the vacant 154 IBO belt when he dogged the IBO ordered Geale rematch even though Medley was ranked outside the top 50 by the IBO. He will and has justified these match ups using technical excuses e.g carry over points,Medley exempt because he was Intercon champ etc. All the orgs do it but not as bad as the IBO. The IBO in Australia anyway.
    I think Phil is a good ref and judge though.
     
  2. swilson120

    swilson120 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I personally hate the WBA more !!
     
  3. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you even follow boxing? aren't you some chick who follows boxers around like some groupie just so she can get an interview and big note herself? I tell it like it is, if you don't like that then don't farkn read what i write, its as simple as that. Unless you have something to contribute to in order to debate the points Ive raised why do you even bother to post is beyond me.
     
  4. TCboxa

    TCboxa Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    talks to much sht when he is a ref. A good ref don't need to talk as much as he does during a fight.
     
  5. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They are bad but even with them eventually you have to face your mandatories e.g Sturm trying to unify and drop his belt when he had no choice but fight Golovkin and the winner having to face Golovkin by Dec 31 or relinquish the belt. Which is what happened and Golovkin was rightly made full champion.
    With the IBO there are no mandatories and your only obligation is to fight someone ranked in the top 35. Or even top 50.



    What sets the IBO apart from the older, more recognised bodies such as the WBA, is that it doesn't rely on a committee of experts to work out its rankings. It uses a computer. A computer that never says, "Are you out of your mind?" which is how Paul Briggs was able to fight for a world title last week.
    See, every month the WBA committee members sit down and work out who they think are the top 10 boxers who fight under their banner. For the No.10 fighter to move up the ranks he must challenge the No.9 fighter and beat him, and so on up the ladder. The world champion must fight the No.1 or No.2-ranked fighter within nine months of his past defence.
    The IBO doesn't work like that. It doesn't have its own rankings per se. Instead it feeds the details of everyone from all the organisations, from WBA to WBZ, into the computer. The IBO world champion then picks who he wants to fight from the top 35 ranked contenders, pays the IBO a fee of around $20,000 plus airfares and accommodation for IBO judges and a supervisor and everyone's a winner. Except for the loser of course – although with $200,000 for 29 seconds work, Paul Briggs might disagree.
    But wait, I hear you cry. Even feeding his excellent past record into the computer, how could Briggs possibly be in the top 35 contenders when he hadn't fought for three years?
    Excellent point, and one which I went to the very top to clear up. Unfortunately the president of the IBO, Edward S. Levine, was on vacation and unavailable and the vice-president, his son, Jeremy D. Levine, was on his way back from Perth where he had been supervisor of the fight. But I did receive a prompt reply from the assistant to the president, Maria Canizares, who advised that the challenger can be ranked between 36 and 50 as long as "he has not lost his last fight, not lost any two of his last four fights by knockout and has a positive record in his last six fights".
    And then the whammy, the $200,000, world title clause: "There is no time requirement with regard to when they had their last fight".
    :lol:
    IBO>WBA on the shonky,dodgyness scale.:deal
     
  6. Rooboys

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    There was meant to be a rematch because the ibo could see the dollars coming in for them. Nothing to do with the result. And when mundine said he is gonna try and make junior middle weight again they tried to throw a title at him because they wanted his money. Yet I still rate medley head and shoulders above who green beat for his ibo titles.
     
  7. stiflers mum

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    I agree. I am a Geale nuthugger but personally saw it 7-5 rounds for Mundine a 3 point win for Mundine. And your 2nd point is right too but Medley wasn't ranked in the IBO top 50 Phil even admitted in a thread. Dominguez was garbage and it was a gimme belt for Green but that along with the $3 million got RJJ over here so I will overlook that. But Greens next 3 defences were pathetic so that undone that good work IMO. I will find the thread I think it was called ''who's the Boss?""
     
  8. Francis75

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    So you're saying that Phillip Austin is corrupt and can't be trusted.
     
  9. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Francis Im not saying Phil is corrupt Im saying he is willing to bend the rules in order to accomodate certain fighters who are bigger draws and bring in more money for his company/sanctioning body.

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=190428

    Such as allowing Mundine to fight for a vacant belt against a guy who was not ranked in the top 50 by the IBO against the IBO'S own rules and using the lame reason he won a Intercontinental cuppa soup title against a tomato can to justify it. They all do it Delahoya was gifted Sturms WBO MW belt to set up a monster bout with Hopkins and there is plenty of other examples.
    Just IMO the IBO in Australia are the worst.
     
  10. Francis75

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    What you have explained is outright corruptions. So in an around about way you're saying Phillip Austin is corrupt to the core.
     
  11. TCboxa

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  12. Careful you don't get sued saying things like that.
     
  13. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But he explains himself well and lets the fighters know clearly what they are doing wrong before deducting points. And IMO as a referee has the health and safety of the boxers as a top priority. As an example when Daud Jordan lost his FW title he stopped it at the right time. Better than what KT and the ref in the Lebedev-Jones fight allowed to happen. Anyway thats what I reckon.
     
  14. stiflers mum

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    No he is a shrewd businessman who operates within the IBO guidelines to make the IBO the most money. Is this fair to boxers who toil hard to get a high ranking or is it fair Lateef Kayode who drew with a roided up Tarver get passed over for a shot at the vacant IBO CW title in preference to Green and
    Cameron who were ranked lower than Kayode but earn far more money for the IBO? No it isn't but from a business POV its smart.
     
  15. TCboxa

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    He likes the sound of his own voice, ive never ever seen a ref talk so much during a fight, its not required, you give them warnings then deduct a point, no need to gas bag so much during a fight. Let the fighters fight and do your job as a ref, no one wants to hear a ref talking the entire fight.