Who will fight a world class opponent first, burns or cleverly

All ranked inside the top 10 with the ring. you wont find many champions that have done that 3 fights in a row.

 

Kevin Mitchell was rated to 5 by ring magazine Moses top ten.

 

Burns has faced a ok list of opponents, not much else really.

 

Yeah i agree it shouldn't be compared to Clev's but on a whole it's still pretty average. Clev is awful, I dunno if he's the only one facing such sub standard oppo..

 

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So that's the answer to the question(s) I asked?

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Clev gets stick on here because of his poor run of opponents and because of dickhead comments from Fwank and his pops Vince. Namely about how he outclassed Bellew when most people felt that Bellew sneaked the decision in an excellent fight.

They were also trying to make a fight with a guy named Robin Krasniqui who made Tommy Karpency look like Sugar Ray Leonard.

As for Burns, his LW run has been ok. No more, no less.

 

Why do people give burns such stick. He world champ he has been in some top fights. Katsidis was inter rim champ moses former wba champ. He took his belt from a champ. As those champ yet u slate his worth...

'Third degree' WILL do broner mark my words.

Haters will hate...

 

What a bunch on here it's almost laughable,ricky is the real deal please get used to it!!!!!!

 

Don't think many doubt it now.

Congrats on the Mitchell fight Mr Nelson.

I got it wrong I hold my hands up.

So impressed with Ricky, he has come on so much and the timing of his hook was brilliant.

I said I wouldn't pick against him again if he came through it and I won't.

 

Ah the bitter Irishman.

How many people thought Burns would beat Katsidis when they fought, think you will find the majority said he would lose.

 

People just don't understand the meaning of world class, it doesn't mean elite p4p HOF material it means among the best in the world.

Both Martinez and Bellew are among the best in the world in their respective weight classes

 

Do you do anything besides ***** about Ricky Burns and Brits in general.

Seriously dude this can't be healthy.

 

Clev beat Bellew easily in England with 3 English judges 117-112, 116-113 and 114-114.
Read it and weep.:happy

 

But where were they in your rankings?

:deal. My only issue with what you were saying was lumping Burns in with Clev. In regards to Clev he is by no means the only guy with that standard of opposition but its the fact he is a "World Champ" that doesn't sit right with me and I think most people. I do get the feeling that its changing a bit though, fighters seem to be taking a lot more challenges recently.

The reason he gets such dislike on this board is because he is held up as a champ but hasn't fought anyone of championship level. Clev/Bellew was a British or possibly European title fight no more. I personally like Clev and hope he does well but hes a prospect/contender NOT a champ.

I disagree about Bellew he is not proven at World level IMO he gets overrated on here because he is a nice guy, posts and had that close fight with Clev. He has potential and I wish him the best but he is not a proven world operator yet.

 

Kat was decent, although pretty much lost every time he stepped up, bit of a gate keeper for the likes of Mitchell. Moses is reasonably good, Mitchell is/was and will always be domestic level, Ricky handled him the way he should have.