Who will rank higher in the ATG list, Joe Calzaghe or Emmanuel Pacquiao?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, May 27, 2015.


  1. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao and it isn't even close
     
  2. BillyWhizz

    BillyWhizz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on now, even you are better than this.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    trick question, calzaghe isn't on the atg list.

    joe is on the HoF list for clocking up 21 defences over 11 years, next to barry mcguigan who got his hof status in just one fight and 45 minutes.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good kell brook is following his foot steps, it's shame because I do think Brook is talented.
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah no, Pac still has wins over barrera/morales before he started cheating, who are both higher atgs than Calzaghe himself.
     
  6. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao and not even close for me.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    this is why joe is always going to bottom out in h2hs, because he was defending at subeuro level for a decade.

    even in his own division, joe is the lowest achiever if you take into account the time taken to aggregate his acheivements, plenty did it faster at smw than joe.
     
  8. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you are comparing opponents like barrera and morales with opponents like Kessler (a good, unifed champ in a weak division, not an atg or hofer) and lacy (much worse, a puppet titlist).

    theres no justification for saying "calzaghe does though, hes got three of them".

    and lets not get started on joes 40something club, I don't think many wuld have the paucity of character to do that (only Marquez gets that because it was they kept rematching again and again until he turned 40!)
     
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    oh sorry mate got it all wrong.

    yup Kessler and lacy were good defences, but they were simply joes first elite opponent in his last ever defence, and a puppet, respectively.
     
  11. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The zaggers. Manny is the filipino Jeff Lacy.
     
  12. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is this a joke thread? Clearly Pac.
     
  13. Barry Smith

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    TBH someones body isn't an indication PED use, just look at fat Toney or scrawny Morales. Although Calzaghe was probably clean.
     
  14. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    :lol::lol: joe was the all-time cherrypicker.
     
  15. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe the GOAT :happy