Who will Wilder fans support if he is soundly defeated by Ortiz?

This is sort of how I feel, like wilder and his team have been hunting and chasing this Ortiz fight really hard it makes me suspicious.

 

If wilder loses then wilder fans should support Deontay wilder. That is what being a fan is.

No wonder boxers are so scared to lose their zero. 1 loss and they are discarded. Won't happen when Joshua loses, never happened when Hatton lost.

 

Exactly this. I was going to say the same thing. If Wilder loses this fight, his fans should still support him. That's the same for any boxer. Boxers and fans alike are too obsessed nowadays with the zero in the loss column. What makes a truly great champion/boxer is having the mental toughness to bounce back from defeat and come back stronger. Even if he does lose, his fans should stick with him, because he can build himself back up. If fans turn their back on any boxer after one defeat, it says more about the fan than it does the boxer.

 

The only so called Wilder fans that would stop being fans if he lost were never really fans to begin with they just supported him because he was a threat to Joshua, they'll move onto the next guy they perceive to be a threat to Joshua.

Genuine Wilder fans will stick with him and continue to support him in the hope he can learn from his mistakes and come again.

 

If Deontay loses I see him implode mentally. All the hot steam inside his head, all the patting on his back by his dumbass entourage who told him he's the greatest ever, how he'd beat all the past greats. Deontay's entire house of cards would crumble and he would not recover from it.

 

Most online fans will move onto Miller, who fulfils the same criteria many have for supporting Deontay at the moment. I see very few with the integrity or moral strength to continue to support him after he loses.

The only fans who'd definitely stick with Wilder would be the ones who attend his shows and live in the area and support him purely because he's a local boy. On this forum and elsewhere the exodus would begin.

 

Dubois will be found wanting as soon as he steps up, same with Joe Joyce

 

Wilder fans don't strike me as real boxing fans in GENERAL...particularly on you tube social medias..its more like a reason to argue race.

Of course they would roll with Miller then..BC they aren't actually in it for boxing but to start irrelevant agendas...

One reason I wouldn't mind seeing Wilder lose so they all disappear at least half of them who have proven to be far worse than Fury fans ever had....lol

However Wilder is better for boxing as he's more media friendly and speaks English along with a super fight with Joshua....

 

I guess the problem is the possibility that Wilder fans will feel 'tricked'. Lots of them have been convinced he's the real deal without him ever stepping up his level of opposition. If he is comprehensively beaten by Ortiz it will leave a fair few people wondering if they've been conned. Similar sort of thing that happened with Eubank Jr.

Hatton had already proven he was the real deal by the time he lost. If Joshua was comprehensively beaten by Wlad I wonder how many 'fans' he might have lost. People who paid for PPV in his 'world' title fight against Charles Martin might have felt a bit short-changed. AJ even admitted he didn't feel like a real champ until he beat Wlad.

 

the thing is we know luis ortiz is clean. can he fight clean?

but to answer the question idk but no ortiz.

 

Wilder has fans ? wow.

 

A long time ago, like 2011/2012, you know, before the English speaking world paid any attention at all to Kong, I picked Tyson to beat Wilder to the title then lose to Wilder in a title fight. Tyson's my other dude from back when they were considered prospects and people actually argued for guys like Seth Mitchell and David Price. I picked T&D , rode with them during the criticism, and celebrated their victories. I still really want Fury-Wilder, but if Wilder fails then my boy Skywalker becomes my only hope.

I don't have any issue with Joshua or Parker. If Ortiz beats him I would have been very wrong about Ortiz though. As a hispanic I've seen Ortiz's name basically since he turned pro. I imagine it was very similar for Brits who didn't watch AJ's am career. He started with praise, and the media trying to convince me he's more than a fat plodder taking out even fatter plodders or like that's very different from your average spanish vs spanish at HW. Have y'all even seen a hispanic HW who ain't fat or Fres? I know it must be rare for youse because it's rare for the spanish speaking world. Either way, King Kong stayed away from anyone who presented a stylistic challenge up until now and Wilder/Fury did not. Even AJ pushed himself based on styles before he got the major push in the media. He did fight Whyte, and sure it's a bit personal, but also Whyte has been a stylistic, not skill based, challenge for AJ since they were ams. Ortiz doesn't have this in any form.

Fury fought Cunningham. AJ fought Whyte. Wilder fought Szpilka. And yeah even though I'm claiming styles made these fights I do rank those wins in that order. I still like Steve better than Dillian but I don't feel strongly, Artur is the weak man but at least his style gave Wilder something to think about. Ortiz doesn't have this fight. He doesn't have an analog. Nothing that on paper might have pushed him. Not even a very confident challenger willing to take it to him. He won a bunch of fights that on anyone else's resume are look good fight not being pushed fights. No one who carries power into late rounds, not even a shitty version. So yeah, that's why I never changed my tune since he was a regional fighter. He's not changed his career path at all. For all the criticism Wilder gets it's really King Kong who has been extremely protected, well him and Povetkin. Almost like he's a state created counterfeit coming from a corrupt nation. Then again, all youse european know more about Cuba than their taino decedent brothers so maybe it's youse who should be telling me about Cuban boxing and the coddling of Ortiz.

That said, Ortiz winning would be somewhat embarrassing given I trashed the man since his regional days, but as far as backing another, man if you pick one prospect to be champion and didn't even try for his major rival then your ass didn't even have the balls to make a real prediction on how the era turns out. You just picked one out of a handful and rode. Odds ain't bad when it's like that. You should always pick two, and when both are champ then you've double brags and when one loses you're only half stupid.

To be honest I didn't give AJ or JP much attention because I expect them to lose to DW and TF. The only real braggable win between the two is Wlad and I picked DW-TF to beat Wlad with ease a long time ago so some new kid doing it later ain't really that impressive. Not enough for me to jump ship. He's third on the list though. No Wilder, no Fury, then it's all about Josh. **** Ortiz the long **** that he is.