Who will win the Boxing World Cup between Philippines & Mexico?

PacDbest · Aug 6, 2007

boxbox said:

gorrez is out...torn retina

go philippines!
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Gorres now was cleared to fight.

Who else here are going to watch it live in Arco????

ko factor · Aug 6, 2007

Sweet Pea Pacquiao said:

Originally, the winner of the Best-of-7 series on August 11 between budding boxing rivals Mexico and the Philippines was going to receive a $500,000 gold-and-diamond encrusted trophy sculpted by IceLink Watches and promoted by Golden Boy.

However, a big blow to Team Philippines occurred this week when super flyweight #1 contender Z Gorres [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](26-2-1, 14 KOs) [/FONT]was ruled out with a tear in his retina. Gorres, a southpaw stylist coming off a controversial split decision loss to current WBO champion Fernando Montiel, was heavily favored to defeat [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mexican Jose Angel Beranza (30-9-2, 25 KOs), who has tentatively been scratched off the card.

Due to the Gorres injury[/FONT], the series has now been reduced to SIX bouts, with a potential tiebreaker being discussed right now. The new lineup is as follows, keeping in mind that the fight between Mexican-American Brandon Gonzalez and "TBA" will not count against the six-fight total because he will be fighting at middleweight against a non-Filipino.

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[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](M) Daniel Ponce De Leon (31-1, 28 KOs) vs
(P) Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista (23-0, 17 KOs)
(WBO junior featherweight championship)[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] EDGE: DE LEON because of his experience, punching power, and Bautista's "the jury is out" chin. Bautista, who also hits like a ton of bricks, can win if he has the discipline to box on the outside when he has to, and counterpunch when De Leon is off balance. This might be too much to ask of the 21-year-old, who has never faced a fighter of this quality before. Then again, Bautista is Golden Boy's current "Golden Boy," so maybe Oscar knows something I don't.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] (M) Jhonny "Johnny" Gonzalez (34-5, 29 KOs) vs
(P) Gerry "Fearless" Penalosa (51-6-2, 34 KOs)
(WBO bantamweight championship)[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] EDGE: While Penalosa has years of experience, including a controversial UD loss to Ponce De Leon where most observers felt he took at least five rounds, GONZALEZ is the man to beat here. He is much taller, longer, and much more complete than De Leon. However, two questions remain: Although he made 118 in his title defense against Irene Pacheco, will Gonzalez be weight-drained from having to make bantam one last time? Furthermore, how will he handle the style of the best technician the Philippines has to offer, and a southpaw at that?
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(M) Gerson "El Nene" Guerrero (33-7, 25 KOs) vs
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](P) Diosdado "Prince" Gabi (29-3-1, 21 KOs)[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](IBF junior bantamweight eliminator)[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] EDGE: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Guerrero will dwarf Gabi by three inches, but [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]GABI has a very slight advantage in the fight because of his boxing ability and newfound power. Both have failed challenges at the world title level against some big names. Himself a victim of current teammate De Leon (KOby2), Guerrero has also lost to Arce-conqueror Cristian Mijares (TKOby8}. On the other hand, while Gabi was blasted by Vic Darchinyan on Shobox (TKOby8}, he took a few rounds from him. In addition, Gabi was fighting two weight classes below his most comfortable weight, 118. Since the move, he has recorded three straight stoppages within two rounds or less, including one over Mauricio Pastrana, who has stopped Guerrero in the past.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] (M) Gerardo Verde (15-4, 11 KOs) vs
(P) Bert Batawang (50-6, 34 KOs)
(IBF junior flyweight eliminator)
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] EDGE: VERDE is the favorite here, as he has more seasoning against proven fighters, including Ivan Calderon (LbyUD12), a fight where he took a couple rounds from the undefeated Iron Boy. Batawang has been a mainstay on the WBO rankings for years, but has no one on his resume to prove he has been tested.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] (M) Miguel Roman (21-0, 15 KOs) vs
(P) Michael Domingo (31-14-2, 12 KOs)
(junior featherweight, 6 rounds)
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] EDGE: ROMAN is an overwhelming favorite here. He's an undefeated prospect with some good names on his resume to date, including two decision wins over Cesar Soto, who once unceremoniously snatched away the WBC featherweight crown from Filipino legend Luisito Espinosa. Domingo is the current Philippine national champ at 118, but he has taken two losses in his last three bouts. Moving up in weight against an undefeated prospect is not an ideal situation.
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(P) AJ Banal (13-0-1, 10 KOs) vs
(M) Eric Ortiz (26-6-1, 17 KOs)
(junior bantamweight, 6 rounds)[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] EDGE: This is a very risky decision by Banal's handlers to put him in this early with a former world champion in ORTIZ, who should be favored. Ortiz once lost his WBC light flyweight strap to Filipino Brian Viloria by first-round knockout, followed by another technical knockout loss to Ulises Solis, brother of Manny Pacquiao KO victim Jorge Solis. On the other hand, although only 18, Banal is a smooth southpaw with power who can beat you by brawling, boxing, or exchanging inside. De La Hoya and GBP have been sending scouts to the Philippines for two years now, so you know he has potential to be something special. This is the undercard fight to keep an eye on before the televised twin world championship bouts.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] NON-WORLD CUP BOUT/SPECIAL ATTRACTION
Brandon Gonzales (1-0, 1 KO) vs
TBA[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] EDGE: Like AJ Banal, GONZALES, a former amateur standout from Sacramento, has been scouted by Golden Boy and is a couple of impressive showings away from a GBP contract.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For once, Golden Boy has put up a very entertaining card with good matchups that people will rightfully put up good money to watch. It's a shame that none of these fighters are household names, mainly for the fact they don't speak fluent English.
I would've liked to see hometown boy and Mexican-American featherweight Vicente Escobedo on the card, especially because he has ties to both nations being a former sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao. Another fighter that would've been a good addition would be 122-pound Mexican prospect Abner Mares, who has called out Bautista on occasion calling him "Bum Bum." [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Perhaps that will be one for the next World Cup.
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Filipino fighters that should have been considered for the card include Glenn Donaire, brother of Darchinyan-conqueror Nonito, who would have stepped in nicely to take on Beranza at a catchweight of 115. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Strawweight contender Donnie Nietes has power in his little fists. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Finally, new Top Rank signing Bernabe Concepcion, currently WBC Youth Champion at 122, would've also been a good addition to the card, but he and Rodel Mayol just fought on the Morales-Diaz undercard. [/FONT]
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A very good analysis!:good

ko factor · Aug 7, 2007

So far we have a tie! 26 on PI ,26 for Mexico.:bbb

ko factor · Aug 9, 2007

ko factor said:

So far we have a tie! 26 on PI ,26 for Mexico.:bbb
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Now it's Mexico leading by a hair in the poll 27 to 26, welcome to the new rivalry in boxing! LET'S GET IT ON! yohooo!:bbb:happy:happy

theunderdog · Aug 9, 2007

philippines is lucky that ortiz is facing gorres and not banal. i thought banal vs ortiz would have gone mexico's favor but now i think gorres will take it. and banal will now be facing a john doe meaning that the fighter he'll face will not be in top condition as the time that he was notified will be too short now. i think that's an instant 2-0 for the philippines. but the other 4 fights, i see mexico winning

PacDbest · Aug 9, 2007

http://philboxing.com/news/story-11993.html

Quotes from the World Cup.

Philippines wins 5-1. Maybe a Sweep. They're seems to be very confident.

PacDbest · Aug 9, 2007

theunderdog said:

philippines is lucky that ortiz is facing gorres and not banal. i thought banal vs ortiz would have gone mexico's favor but now i think gorres will take it. and banal will now be facing a john doe meaning that the fighter he'll face will not be in top condition as the time that he was notified will be too short now. i think that's an instant 2-0 for the philippines. but the other 4 fights, i see mexico winning
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I really want to see Banal with ortiz, a little bit dissapointed. AJ will KO that Bum replacement in the 1st round.

PacDbest · Aug 9, 2007

Rey by KO, Saw Ponce-Gerry fight again. I don't think Ponce can take 12 rds of beating.
Gerry by TKO in the 9th
Gorres by Lopsided UD
Roman By KO(Hoping for Upset)
Gabi By KO
Banal By KO-

This is How I see it.

PacDbest · Aug 9, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yUgT1EwktE

Bautista & Ponce workout video.

ko factor · Aug 9, 2007

PacDbest said:

Rey by hard fought UD.
Gerry by TKO in the 9th
Gorres by Lopsided UD
Roman By KO(Hoping for Upset)
Gabi By KO
Banal By KO-

This is How I see it.
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My pick

Bautista vs De Leon = toss up (but leaning on Bautista due to his boxing skills)

Penalosa vs. Gonzalez = Gonzalez due to height and youth

Gorres by UD

Gabi by KO

Banal by KO

Roman by KO

Pinoys 4-2 over Mehicanos.

ko factor · Aug 9, 2007

In case of a tie break: (If de Leon wins)

Pacquaio KO Barrera

4-3 Philippines :happy:happy:happy

theunderdog · Aug 9, 2007

check the vbookie out. the pay out for a penalosa is tremendous.

theunderdog · Aug 9, 2007

MexicanJew said:

I am picking Mexico. For obvious reasons
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where did you out your vcash? i have mine on penalosa and the other one is with the deleon-boomboom under 9.5 rounds.

i feel gonzales still has the upper hand on their fight but the pay out for penalosa was nice so i bet on him. and i think he'll go all out on this fight, being his last

mbandit · Aug 9, 2007

To be honest with you the pinoys are at a very huge advantege.They got prospects that are young and good and mexico only has one good fighter in that card and that is gonzalez.All the other mexican fighters are bums including de leon.i wish it wasnt true but it is.Its like having victor ortiz,cazarez,ulisses solis, martin castillo mijares and a few 2 so so fighters against old pinoy fighters.If you dont believe me check their records.i dont understand why d.l.h would do this to his own people but oh well what can you do.That is the reason why the pinoys are very confident.Heck i would be too with those opponents.I just mexico can pull it off.One thing is for sure we gonzalez will win.

PacDbest · Aug 10, 2007

Anybody knows if they Allowed Camcorder of Digital SLR in the Stadium for the World cup???

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