Who Wins: 1951 Louis or 1991 Foreman ?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Had to throw this one out to Rocky fanatics ...
     
  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    '91 Foreman KO's 1950/'51 Louis in a wicked manner.......

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  3. mr. magoo

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    Louis was not very well designed to fight effectively into old age. Sure, he was still somewhat competitive, but an early 90's Foreman would have been all wrong for him. The lightening fast combinations were long gone by this point in Joe's career, and Foreman's improved defense would hav bombarded any attack that Louis tried to initiate. He would be a sitting duck for some of those overhand rights, and would recieve a nasty gut check in the clinches.

    This may very well be a mismatch..
     
  4. MRBILL

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    Louis did NOT age well at all.......... Christ, I have some of his 50s fights on tape...... By age 36 and 37, Louis looked age 50 with a balding head of hair and rough facial skin tone.....

    I also saw Louis with Max Schmeling posing together in the early 70s for a picture and, Louis near or at age 60, looked older than the pushing 70 Schmeling........

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  5. junior-soprano

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    i agree i think within 7 rounds he gets Ko'd
    now a prime louis to a prime foreman would be something else
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Foreman. He 'did old' better than Joe Louis.
     
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  8. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis-------"with a balding head of hair"

    You are saying that Foreman has the edge on hair?
     
  9. MRBILL

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    Not really.... But Foreman was smart enough to shave his head so he didn't look so funky in there with the "Doughnut" look.......

    I thought Kareem Abdul Jabbar looked like a dork with the big ole doughnut haircut on the court prior to shaving his head at the end of his career...

    "Doughnut" and "Horseshoe" type cuts just don't cut it in boxing.......

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  10. MRBILL

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    I thought Ernest Shavers looked way more of a bad-ass when he went with the shaved head look in the middle 70s........

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  11. SuzieQ49

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    Foreman in 1990s got outboxed and battered by average Alex Stewart. Old Foreman was so easy to outbox and easy to jab. I like 1951 Joe Louis fighting a expert boxing match outjabbing and outboxing foreman for a unanimous decision. 1991 foreman was too slow to land one of his wallops on the smart veteran Louis.

    It took ATG fighters in there primes to beat a 1950s Joe Louis...it took average fighters like Alex Stewart, Tommy Morrison, Axel Shulz to beat a 1990s George Foreman


    Louis Unanimous Foreman
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    Only ATGs in there primes were able to defeat a 37 year old Louis. The same cannot be said of Foreman who was lucky to get gifts on the cards against very mediocre fighters like Alex Stewart and Axel Shulz. Not to mention getting outboxed by glass jaw Morrison.

    If anything this shows Louis had a style suited very well for destroying younger contenders while foreman did not.


    How so? Foreman showed in the 1990s he had horrid struggles with fundamental sound boxers with a high guard who stuck a good jab in his face...That is essentially a 37 year old Joe Louis



    Louis a sitting duck? More like Foreman would be a sitting duck for all those stiff left jabs louis drives in his face. Louis moved his feet in the 1950s, foreman did nothing but stand there like a statue in the 1990s. Foreman's right was teleghraphed, slow, and predictable. Louis would not fall victm to that...especially if he did not fall victim to Marcianos much more potent right early on.


    More like a boxing lesson. Louis would show foreman a trick or two about the art of fundamentals.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    Are you kidding? Louis would easily dispatch foreman in his prime. No One in history beats a prime joe louis.
     
  14. essexboy

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    Now thats controversial!
     
  15. MRBILL

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    Alex Stewart was a lemon for the most part, however, in 1992 he BOXED the fight of his life after being clobbered big time in round 2 by Foreman....... And, Tommy Morrison also fought the most disciplined fight of his entire career when he outboxed Foreman in 1993..... Its funny how these supposed bad-ass mothers like "Stewart & Morrison" become full-fledge boxers when matched against a powerhouse the size of a building.....

    As for the 1950s Joe Louis putting on a clinic against the 1991 George Foreman, well, I just can't see it at all....... Louis had no legs and no reflexes left in his body by 1950..... All Louis had was his power and will......... "Charles and Marciano" exposed all of that.....

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