Who wins between a prime Aaron Pryor vs. Mayweather?

:good That was my point i was trying to make. The person who said that obviously never seen Pryor fight with that statement and has made other statements such as eddie chambers being slick that led me to believe he doesnt watch the fighters he comments on.

 

Did I ever say Pryor was one punch KO artist? No. But, he would have knocked out Baldomir and Judah types for sure. Its really sad how you will tear down great Hall of Famers just to protect and raise up your PBF. I never said Pryor was Mike Tyson. But, he caused his opponents to lose a lot of blood. I have more respect for Pryor than your PBF. Sorry. Also, Chambers has the nickname FAST EDDIE for a reason. Eddie Chambers would take Haye to school. I stand by my statements.

 

Pryor KO 26 consecutive guys, that is a big puncher to me. Anyone who KO like that is a big puncher. Vitali is a big puncher. But, Tyson warped your mind. If it aint like Tyson, it aint a big puncher. Marciano was a big puncher. Ali, YES ALI, was a big puncher. Chico was not a good fighter. I'm sorry, but he was all punch, with guts mind you, but that was it.

 

Dont back track now. You said Pryor was a "big and i mean big" puncher.That basically saying he had massive power which he didnt. Im not the only one who noticed this either.

And wear did I tear down Pryor? I asked you if he was a massive puncher why did he take long to get a past prime SFW out of there. I said this because i know from watching him he isnt a big puncher because if he was Arguello wouldnt have made it past 6 with everything Pryor was hitting him with. And again where did I tear down either Pryor or Alexis?

Pryor probably wouldve KO'd judah but what does that have to do with anything? He's greater because he might have KO'd Judah?

And the fact Vernon forrest couldnt KO Baldo despite unloading bombs on him tell me the Pryor would not KO him. Baldo's chin is known to be granite.

You accused me of tearing down HOF'ers. Where did i do that?

Its hypocritical because PBF is an ATG and a HOF'er and you just potshot his whole career and in the process Down graded Chico who will go to the Hall and Dicredited DLH another HOF'er and ATG. But im the one tearing down HOF'ers?


You having more respect for Pryor is up to you. I have respect for him also. That means what though?

ANd Eddie has the Nick Name "Fast" because of his hand speed not because he is "slick" like you said. Like i said if you actually watched him you would know this.

How is Floyd not great again? Is he not HOF'ers? Did you not just tear his whole career down?

 

Oh so know he is a Big puncher to you after you visited boxrec?:thumbsup

Pryor wasnt feather fisted but his power wasnt Hearns like or even Tzysu like. Accumulation was his thing.

ANd now Chico is not a good fighter? Wow:-(

 

Chambers is fast, and he is slick. For a heavyweight he is slick. I love the way he boxes. I guess my definition of slick is different from yours. So, quit talking about that. You didn't agree with me Haye would lose to Chambers, and you can't forget it. You didn't like my statement about PBF running, that's why you started talking in this thread. Pryor destroyed his fighters, not like Tyson, but like Margarito. That's why I know Pryor and Margarito would destroy PBF, and end the myth. And that's why I know PBF would never fight those guys. Now, do you understand why I don't think PBF is great like you do? I have no respect for PBF, because he runs and beats below fighters, brags like he cleaned everything out, and there's nothing more to be done. You make it seem I am the only one who thinks that. Experts like Fisher, Kellerman, Merchant, think the same. I guess they are all dumb too, and don't watch fights too. Chico was not as good as some say, but you need him to be a good HOF to keep your PBF looking pretty. Again, Pryor was a beast, and PBF was not. Chico was overrated. Pryor would cut up and end Baldomir's night by TKO, and Chambers would take Haye to school. I am certain of this, because I don't have favorite fighters and need them to be better than they are, I look and see what it is.

 

Again i dont care if you think eddie would win. My problem is the flawed anaylsis that he is slick. Should we make another thread with a poll to see if he is slick?

That is not why i started talking in this thread. If it was then why did i comment on the part about the "pryor was big and i mean big puncher"?explain.

Opinion. fact is you dont know anything about those fights:deal

Again you dont know anything, all speculation on your part. And from what im reading it says you think PBF is not a great fighter because he "runs and beats BELOW FIGHTERS"

So i guess Dlh,Zab,castillo,hernandez,chico, hatton etc etc are all below fighters? But im the one tearing down HOF'ers? Give me an example of doing so.

Continue to expose yourself by all means

Seem like what you are the only one that think pbf isnt great? close too it especially with the half assed reason you gave for him not being so.

Funny you metioned Kellerman because he is a PBF nuthugger:deal

So according to you not only is chico low level and a fighter that is not good but he isnt even HOF worthy:-(

Again all opinion but i happen to share the same thought the pryor was a beast but that is still opinion. The only way Pryor (smaller man btw) would stop Balo is on cut

Again i dont care about who you think would win but eddie is not slick if anything that applies to haye in that matchup




And you accuse me of tearing down HOf'ers yet have failed to show where i have done so. But PBF is a HOFer and he has HOFer on his resume but you shot it all down and dismissed the fights as "below". But im tearing down HOF'ers:huh

 

I will take Slick Fast Eddie over Haye anyday. Kellerman may have been a PBF fan, but the way he was talking before the Judah/Clottey fight, he may not be a fan anymore, like so many other PBF fans that saw the light, and jumped off that wagon. He's trying to get PBF to come out and fight Margarito. But, Kellerman is wasting his time. The fact you and that other person don't think Pryor is a big killer like puncher is because you guys are young. Again, you have been warped by Tyson. If it don't look like Tyson, then it isn't a big puncher. That's the way a lot of people think after Tyson. That's part of the reason many don't think the HW are good anymore, the HW don't knock out guys like Tyson. But before Tyson fought, the fights I saw, a big puncher was anyone who KO his opponent. I'm not letting Tyson warp me. Ali, Marciano, Liston, Hearns, Haglar, Larry Holmes, all big punchers and PRYOR. I know types like you that don't think Vitali is a big puncher, but he is too. PBF is overrated, and should be treated that way, because maybe it will put a fire under him and make him fight. But, fans like you give him a free pass and a comfort security blanket. I guarantee Pryor put more fear in fighters than PBF.

 

Good for you but it wont change the fact that he is not slick and exposes your ability to recognise a fighters style or ability.

Doesnt matter he is considered a nuthugger

Moot. Point again? because mine was that he was a nuthugger.

Yea your right the fact that you dont know our ages and assume we are young is why we see Pryor as not a big puncher at the weight. It has nothing to do with our ability to analysis a fighters style and ability. Basically since we dont agree with you we are wrong.:good

Lets create a poll than shall we? Lets see others opinion of pryor being a big puncher. Up for it?

Irrelevant as can be here because i never mentioned tyson whatsoever. You are bringing up things that are not apart of the dicussion while avoiding the topic at hand. By all means go ahead, it wont work though.

Tyson has nothing to do with my perception of a fighters power several weight classses below him.
Pryor threw some of arm punches. Majority of the guys he stopped were because of acculmulation.

Your making yourself look bad because what i highlighted is irrelevant and are just statement made to cover your lack of knowledge. And even that is an opinion because you have no proof who put what fear into any fighters heartatsch

Its your opinion that PBF is overrated nothin more nothing less. The fact that you say he isnt great or that he isnt a HOFer is...underrating him. Should we make a poll to see if people think he isnt an ATG also?



Why is PBF not great?


Why is the fighters he fought "below" like you said?

Why is Chico not a good fighter or HOF worthy?


DID you not tear down PBF resume which includes HOFer and an ATG?

But you accuse me of doing it. Well show me where I tore down HOFers:deal

 

Pryor was not a one-punch artist, as someone stated. However, he was very fast and threw a lot of punches from all angles. He also was next to impossible to back up even with clean punches.

Definitely a bad match-up for Mayweather. Could Floyd adapt and win a decision? Maybe. He'd have to give away a lot of early rounds and I wouldn't bet on him in a 12 round fight. It would probably be the toughest fight of both fighters' careers, but I would pick Pryor based on stylistic advantage. Prime for prime, I think Pryor overwhelms PBF at 140.

 

As some others have stated, Pryor is a bad style matchup for Floyd. Floyd's MO is to use his hand speed and hard punches to make an opponent hesitant, letting Floyd sit back and counter at will. Eventually, some opponents become worried about even throwing a jab out there, knowing the speed of Floyd's counters.

Well, there isn't a thing in the world that could make the Hawk tentative, he was fast enough on his feet that he could give Mayweather problems in getting away, and his relentless, accumulation offense would almost certainly overwhelm Floyd's Philly Shell defense and/or nullify Floyd's attempts at offense. Then you add on the fact that Pryor could switch from wil brawler to controlled boxer throwing punches from multiple angles if he wanted to, and you have a real bad combination.

After Pryor starts wearing Floyd down, Floyd goes into pure defensive mode to survive and see Pryor win via UD or late stoppage.

 

That's something a guy who never really saw Pryor fight would say.

 

True dat. Pryor was relentless in coming foward and fired off punches in bunches from weird angles while having fast reflexes and feet at the same time. He was an awkward fighter to fight and still had to the power to hurt you. You also consider that was a very good at cutting off the ring and closing in on his opponents.

BAD Style matchup for Floyd. Pryor is not someone you can simply outbox and skip around, and with his offensive style he isnt someone Floyd is going to be able to slip punches with. I see Floyd just having a rough time trying to keep Pryor off of him and getting hit with way more punches than he is used to. Even if Floyd potshots to high hell, he isnt going to win the fight, because its going to look terrible with the judges, and wont be the least bit effective anyways. Pryor had an iron chin, and he has the power to hurt Floyd at the same time. Pryor had great stamina also (lets forget about the black bottle for a moment) and he would keep up the pace and the pressure for a full 12 rounds. Pryor by UD or late technical KO

 

Pryor via UD.

Pryor would be way too much for floyd to handle.

 

Pryor was clumsy but effective. Against Floyd that wouldn't be enough. UD for Mayweather.