Who wins: Billy Conn Vs Lloyd Marshall

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond The Dionysian Destroyer Full Member

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    This is a good match up! I'd also pick Conn. But it would not be that easy.
     
  3. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Conn via decision, good fight idea. Both are 168ers with a surprising depth of resume. Conn was more consistent in his prime which would give him the edge in my eyes.
     
  4. ecto55

    ecto55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The trainers of the era (and later) really sang Conn's praises...really wish there was more film of Conn.

    Think Conn would use his guile to win on points...but gee it'd be interesting to see him diffuse that explosive, panther like power Marshall had...especially early.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    Conn would have the advantage in styles imo. I think he'd win a decision but agree it would be hard fought.
     
  6. KasimirKid

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    Apart from everything else, when they were both active and at their best, Conn was a light heavyweight while Marshall was only a middleweight. so the bout would be no contest, IMO.
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti The Ad Wolgast of Googling Stuff Full Member

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    Marshall fought many Light Heavyweights and even Heavyweights, he could make Middleweight, but it was below his best weight.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    This is objectively false. Marshall clearly performed better a tad north of 160 and Conn was a small LHW.

    Furthermore Conn was 168lbs for his best performance, Lloyd was 165lbs for his.
     
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  9. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Active Member Full Member

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    I agree that Conn's and Marshall's careers intersected at times when they were both middleweights. IMO, however, Conn was at his best in the years after he won the light-heavyweight title and was cleaning up in the heavyweight division on his way to becoming the leading heavyweight contender. That run was quite remarkable. Marshall's best years, on the other hand, were prior to 1945 when he could still make the middleweight limit. I agree that he would have benefited if there had been a super middleweight division in 1942-46.

    My point is that during the period when they were both at their best talentwise and at their most comfortable weights, Conn would have had a significant advantage in weight. Conn's early fights against people like Dundee, Corbett, Yarosz, Krieger, and Apostoli were impressive, but they occurred during the formative years when he was perfecting the ringcraft which would later allow him to succeed as a light heavyweight and heavyweight. I suppose we can argue about when each of them were at their best, but it all boils down to opinion. I certainly respect the opinions of both Wolgast and the cobra.

    It still would have been a great fight, but I think at their bests, Conn would have had way too many arrows in his quiver.
     
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  10. Chuck1052

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    Billy Conn was much more consistent than Lloyd Marshall. As a result, I favor Conn in a bout with Marshall.

    - Chuck Johnston
     


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